New build: Support for scanned PDF documents using OCR is limited Thread poster: Hans Lenting
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Cumulative Update 6 for Trados Studio 2022 (Build 17.0.6.14902, Released on 13th of March, 2023)
Starting with this release, Trados Studio uses a new mechanism and underlying technology for processing PDF files in translation projects. Support for scanned PDF documents using OCR (optical character recognition) is limited out of the box.
| | | | Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER | Very clean XLIFF file | Mar 16, 2023 |
I have tested the new converter with this pdf:
And I got a very clean XLIFF:
I wonder who the provider of the converter technology is.
[Edited at 2023-03-16 11:26 GMT]
| | | | Stepan Konev 
Russian Federation
Local time: 11:33
English to Russian
Hans Lenting wrote:
I wonder who the provider of the converter technology is. Solid Documents I believe. At least for Trados Studio 2021. You can check out for 2022 by going to File Types - PDF - About
| | | | Hans Lenting
Netherlands
Member (2006)
German to Dutch
TOPIC STARTER | Not there anymore | Mar 17, 2023 |
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| Nothing new under the sun of Trados... | Mar 17, 2023 |
Having downloaded and installed Cumulative Update for Trados Studio 2022 (Build 17.0.6.14902, Released on 13th of March, 2023), I've found desperately no significant change so far.
Trados makes still possible to convert Text PDF documents (or "live PDF") into very clean and flawless DOCX file formats. That's a good point but it's not a revolution.
Apart from the fact that Solid Documents logo has just disappeared indeed, Trados still remains unable to convert Image PDF ... See more Having downloaded and installed Cumulative Update for Trados Studio 2022 (Build 17.0.6.14902, Released on 13th of March, 2023), I've found desperately no significant change so far.
Trados makes still possible to convert Text PDF documents (or "live PDF") into very clean and flawless DOCX file formats. That's a good point but it's not a revolution.
Apart from the fact that Solid Documents logo has just disappeared indeed, Trados still remains unable to convert Image PDF documents (or "dead PDF") into editable Word documents. To this respect, I would like to underscore that Trados has never been designed for nor implemented with this very functionality, since it doesn't behave like a real OCR software properly speaking.
For that reason, I've purchased the genuine OCR software of Solid Documents (Trados so-called partner) in order for me to convert all my Image PDF documents into real editable documents more properly translable in Trados afterwards. It works like a charm and I can't complain so far. (Just for a paltry sum of €40.00 per owner licence, for the record.)
So nothing new under the sun with this new "release"...
It has been donkey's years that Trados have not made significant improvements into their prehistoric software and it could likely take much more than centuries before they get up from their laurels they have been resting on so far and get a move on. A real f*****g move on this time!...
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| | | | Hipyan Nopri
Indonesia
Local time: 15:33
Member (2005)
English to Indonesian
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| Cannot Translate Scanned PDFs | Mar 20, 2023 |
Hi Everyone,
Previously, I was able to translate scanned PDF documents without any problems using Trados Studio 2022.
After the latest update to version 17.0.6.14902, I can no longer translate scanned PDFs.
The editor is just blank like the attached screenshot.
Any help from fellow translators would be greatly appreciated.
[Edited at 2023-03-20 00:46 GMT]
| | | | Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 11:33
English to Russian
| Have you read the original post? | Mar 20, 2023 |
Hipyan Nopri wrote:
After the latest update to version 17.0.6.14902, I can no longer translate scanned PDFs. As far as I understand form the original post, Starting with this release... support for scanned PDF documents using OCR (optical character recognition) is limited out of the box. Trados is not an OCR program, it's a CAT tool. In my opinion, it is quite honest of RWS to remove that feature.
memoQ can't import scanned PDF files: "memoQ doesn't extract text from scanned PDF files, where the pages are saved as images and not as text. To translate these documents, run them through a page reader program such as Nuance OmniPage or ABBYY FineReader (PDF Reader)."
Even with such a free CAT tool as Smartcat you still have to pay for OCRing.
It's ok, RWS just made it fair: CAT tools for translation, OCR tools for optical recognition.
The OCR software developers make their living from selling their OCR services. Why on earth Solid Documents must work for free? Besides, there were so many issues about the OCR feature in Trados that they should have removed it a long time ago rather than keep explaining why it doesn't work as expected. This is how I see it.
[Edited at 2023-03-20 02:48 GMT]
| | | | Hipyan Nopri
Indonesia
Local time: 15:33
Member (2005)
English to Indonesian
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read the sentence, Stepan. However, it is 'limited' rather than 'terminated'.
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Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 11:33
English to Russian
Hipyan Nopri wrote:
it is 'limited' rather than 'terminated'. These words have the same meaning here: "Limit = 1. The point, edge, or line beyond which something ends". Also, you still can translate vector PDF files (other than bitmap PDF files), don't you? That is why it is limited.
| | | | Hipyan Nopri
Indonesia
Local time: 15:33
Member (2005)
English to Indonesian
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| Ambiguous Words | Mar 20, 2023 |
Yes, companies often use ambiguous words indeed.
They say 'limited' when it means 'terminated'.
Even companies often use terms that are contradictory in meaning.
They use the word 'unlimited' (for example, 'unlimited usage' in Internet usage) while in fact it means 'limited'.
| | | | Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:33
Member (2008)
Italian to English
I've downloaded the trial version of Solid Converter for Mac and given it a go.
I'm impressed: it's fast and accurate and offers different settings depending on the extent to which you want to strictly maintain the formatting of the original.
I tried it with a pdf that included illustrations with captions, and the main text wrapping around the illustrations. It was pretty good and I could use it - were it not for the cost ($99.95. i.e. $100). I so rarely convert PDFs t... See more I've downloaded the trial version of Solid Converter for Mac and given it a go.
I'm impressed: it's fast and accurate and offers different settings depending on the extent to which you want to strictly maintain the formatting of the original.
I tried it with a pdf that included illustrations with captions, and the main text wrapping around the illustrations. It was pretty good and I could use it - were it not for the cost ($99.95. i.e. $100). I so rarely convert PDFs that it wouldn't be a good investment (I usually ask the client to provide a conversion). ▲ Collapse
| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 10:33
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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Hans Lenting wrote:
Cumulative Update 6 for Trados Studio 2022 (Build 17.0.6.14902, Released on 13th of March, 2023)
Starting with this release, Trados Studio uses a new mechanism and underlying technology for processing PDF files in translation projects. Support for scanned PDF documents using OCR (optical character recognition) is limited out of the box.
https://gateway.sdl.com/apex/communityknowledge?articleName=CUs-Studio2022
There is now a "PDF Assistant" addon in the app store that utilizes Microsoft Word's OCR conversion feature. But yes, they basically say that Trados no longer offers OCR and that you should use a third-party OCR tool.
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