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What does a decent living mean for you nowadays?
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expressisverbis
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It's new to me too Sep 8, 2023

Baran Keki wrote:

Tom in London wrote:
It's commonly used here in London including by non-Muslims. It is meant respectfully.

I never knew that.


I didn't know that either...


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Paweł Hamerski
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I use it myself sometimes after living and Sep 8, 2023

working a bit in Arab countries

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assessment Sep 8, 2023

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:

A decent living depends on so many variables that it’s impossible to say. Do you live alone or do you have a family with school-age children? Are your adult children still living with you? Do you live in the capital city or in the most rural part of your country? Is your house paid for or do you have a mortgage or a rent to pay? Are you still paying for your car if you have one? I would add also age, general health…


Yes, but we know our own situation, we know the situation in our country and can depict different szenarios.

In Northern Italy, a household with 2 children living in a rented flat or paying instalments on a loan
needs at least 4,000 euros net per month/48,000 net per year (way more in the most expensive big Italian city, Milan).
The main factors here (like in many other countries and regions I suppose) are high rents and house prices.

I see stats on the web that are very far from the real picture.


 
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What does a decent living mean? Sep 8, 2023

For me, it means that I can live without trouble on my earnings and still put aside let's say possibly around half of that amount for my future needs.
So no need to give any figures which can vary enormously depending on how your family is composed, where you live, on your expenses in general and that are in no way meaningful, as our situations are all completely different.


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Me Sep 8, 2023

texjax DDS PhD wrote:

Why don't you start by stating what figure makes or would make you feel financially comfortable, just to get the ball rolling?

As a side note, I've never considered my income in terms of net monthly earnings, but rather as annual gross income.


Net monthly earnings are the norm in my country. People don't usually talk about gross figures, we are totally interested in what we are left with after all fees and taxes are paid.

My minimum: 1,000 EUR net/month, which means 4,964.3 RON today (September 9th, 2023).
My comfort zone: double that amount.


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Oh, yes Sep 8, 2023

Philippe Etienne wrote:

You don't look at receipts when shopping for food.
You always pay your bills, taxes, mortgage/loan and compulsory expenses in time.
You are never overdraught.
You own your own place by age 40-50.
You go to the dentist and change glasses whenever you need it.
You are confident that you will earn enough money next month to pay bills.
You can support your children for their studies far away from home.
You go on holiday and don't refrain from visiting a once-in-a-lifetime museum, event or monument.
You always fill your car with a full tank.
You live in a place where every member of the family has their own private space.
You can see the milky way by a clear night.
You will have enough to live on when you retire.
You can indulge yourself with an outing or host a get-together now and again without second thought.
You can maintain your household in acceptable condition.

Philippe


My list would be identical. Despite not meeting anything on it, ha ha.


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James Salter
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Hippies say it Sep 9, 2023

I have heard New Age people/hippies saying it. For example, they pick it up after a trip to Morocco.

Baran Keki wrote:

Tom in London wrote:
It's commonly used here in London including by non-Muslims. It is meant respectfully.

I never knew that. Though I find it inconceivable that an English person would utter this word...
It's one of the words that I always avoid using when translating something from English. You never know if the client is a die hard secularist that hates everything about Islam or a supporter of the current regime. It's best to play it safe and use "hopefully" instead.



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And yet Sep 9, 2023

Samuel Murray wrote:
In other words, if my wife stopped working, then I would have to invoice EUR 80-95 000 per year to feel safe.

I keep hearing about Dutch translators working for peanuts (which I reckon must be 5 or 6 cents per word) and waxing lyrical about Indian agencies on the Blueboard. How many words one must translate at 6 cents to make 95k EUR a year? Maths has never been my strongest point.


 
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Hippies! Sep 9, 2023

James Salter wrote:

I have heard New Age people/hippies saying it. For example, they pick it up after a trip to Morocco.

That hashish must draw them closer to Allah... next thing you know they'll start eating halal meat!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBipA7Yksdk


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Living and learning... Sep 9, 2023

Matthias Brombach wrote:

We all should know by now what "London" stands for, shouldn't we, Baran?
(this is just another example of "toilet" related German humour)

[Bearbeitet am 2023-09-08 10:09 GMT]


I must say I was surprised. One shouldn't say "Have a nice day", but "Insha'Allah" is common in London.
Living and learning... but "malesh"


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