D. Pedro I

English translation: Dom Peter I

09:43 Oct 19, 2021
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - History
Portuguese term or phrase: D. Pedro I
Do we translate "D. Pedro I" from Portuguese to English as "Don Pedro I" or do we just keep it as is?
Savio Soares
India
Local time: 19:13
English translation:Dom Peter I
Explanation:
Found in Collins dictionary - Dom: (formerly in Portugal and Brazil) a title borne by royalty, princes of the Church, and nobles.

Don is a short form for Donald.

It's not relevant, to answer the question, to understand if @Savio Soares means Peter I of Portugal, Peter I of Brazil (aka Peter IV of Portugal) or Peter I of Russia (aka Pyotr the Great). One can find the names of English Kings written in Portuguese like Jorge IV (https://brasilescola.uol.com.br/historia/elizabeth-ii.htm) or Vitória (https://aventurasnahistoria.uol.com.br/noticias/reportagem/2... and Portuguese Kings written in English like Ferdinand II (https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG208688) ou Louis I (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Louis-king-of-Portugal)...
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Sergio Carré
Brazil
Local time: 10:43
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Summary of answers provided
5 +4Pedro 1 Emporer of Brazil
Nick Taylor
5Dom Peter I
Sergio Carré
4King Pedro I of Brazil
Angelo Berbotto
3King Pedro I
Ana Vozone


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King Pedro I


Explanation:
https://www.google.com/search?q="King Pedro I"&oq="King Pedr...

Ana Vozone
Local time: 14:43
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Angelo Berbotto: you are quite right, the period needs to be indicated in order to ascertain which Pedro I this is about
5 mins
  -> How do you know it is Pedro I of Brazil, and not Pedro I, King of Portugal? I was "betting" on D. Pedro I of Portugal.
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King Pedro I of Brazil


Explanation:
I think you can say "King" in order to make it understood to people who may not know that. He was also Pedro IV of Portugal.

Angelo Berbotto
Australia
Local time: 23:43
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Douglas Bissell: He wasn't the king of Brazil though, was he?
26 mins
  -> Thank you, I have double checked: Pedro I, Emperor of Brazil and also briefly King Pedro IV of Portugal
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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Pedro 1 Emporer of Brazil


Explanation:
Dom Pedro 1 Emporer of Brazil
Dom Pedro I (October 12, 1798–September 24, 1834) was the first Emperor of Brazil and was also Dom Pedro IV, King of Portugal. He is best remembered as the man who declared Brazil independent from Portugal in 1822.

Nick Taylor
Local time: 14:43
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 47

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Douglas Bissell: EmpEror
12 mins
  -> Whoops! Cheers Douglas

neutral  Andrew Bramhall: Also one in Portugal: https://www.thoughtco.com/dom-pedro-i-brazils-first-emperor-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_I_of_Portugal
30 mins
  -> true! I just assumed it was Br

agree  Simone Taylor: Emperor, not Emporer but agree
37 mins
  -> Whoops! Thanks Simone :-)

agree  Katarina Peters: Emperor
2 hrs
  -> Of course :- Thanks Katarina.

neutral  Oliver Simões: I concur with Oliver Toogood and Ana Vozone. There is no context to draw any conclusion whatsoever. It could go either way: of Portugal or Brazil. We need context.
5 hrs
  -> true! I just assumed it was Br

agree  Muriel Vasconcellos: Drop the "Dom" in English. He was also Pedro IV of Portugal before he escaped to Brazil.
8 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Dom Peter I


Explanation:
Found in Collins dictionary - Dom: (formerly in Portugal and Brazil) a title borne by royalty, princes of the Church, and nobles.

Don is a short form for Donald.

It's not relevant, to answer the question, to understand if @Savio Soares means Peter I of Portugal, Peter I of Brazil (aka Peter IV of Portugal) or Peter I of Russia (aka Pyotr the Great). One can find the names of English Kings written in Portuguese like Jorge IV (https://brasilescola.uol.com.br/historia/elizabeth-ii.htm) or Vitória (https://aventurasnahistoria.uol.com.br/noticias/reportagem/2... and Portuguese Kings written in English like Ferdinand II (https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG208688) ou Louis I (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Louis-king-of-Portugal)...

Example sentence(s):
  • "Originally known as the Imperial Order of the Southern Cross, it was founded on December 1, 1822 by Emperor Dom Peter I of Brazil (IV of Portugal) (...)"

    https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f19/december-2008-newsletter-royal-orders-19319.html#
Sergio Carré
Brazil
Local time: 10:43
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 4
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