top 19th percentile

11:26 Mar 28, 2021
English to French translations [PRO]
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English term or phrase: top 19th percentile
Dans un CV de candidature, exposé de l'expérience professionnelle :
"Improved engagement levels by 10 bp and scored in top 19th percentile of peer group."

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Christian Fournier
France
Local time: 18:54


Summary of answers provided
5 -1et s'est placé au 19ème rang centile du groupe de référence
Bruno Carlier
4un score au dessus de celui de 81% de ses pairs
Francois Boye
319e centile supérieur
Claire Nolan
5 -2était parmis les meilleurs 19% au sein de son groupe de pairs
Daryo
3 -1à hauteur du 19e centile
Nathalie Beaudelot


Discussion entries: 3





  

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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
à hauteur du 19e centile


Explanation:
Système référentiel national utilisé ici, en Irlande, dans l’enseignement primaire, pour allouer une note aux élèves dans des matières clé comme la lecture, le calcul etc.

Nathalie Beaudelot
Ireland
Local time: 17:54
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: this guy/gal was in the top of the class, you put them in the bottom
10 hrs
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
et s'est placé au 19ème rang centile du groupe de référence


Explanation:
Classement par comparaison aux résultats des autres personnes faisant partie du même groupe...
By the way, 19ème rang centile, ce n'est vraiment pas le "top"

Example sentence(s):
  • Ainsi,Gérard est au 98e rang centile.

    https://www.alloprof.qc.ca/fr/eleves/bv/mathematiques/le-rang-centile-m1371
Bruno Carlier
France
Local time: 18:54
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GILLES MEUNIER
1 hr

disagree  Daryo: if you take the trouble to reread the ST while paying attention, you might notice that it' s NOT "19ème rang centile" counting from the bottom! + a "reference group" would be some EXTERNAL group, no the class /year/promotion of his candidate.
5 hrs
  -> Hi Daryo, you should take the time to reread carefully what's behind your link... or mine https://testpartnership.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200842... - I am pretty sure you are not in the right place on the scale of values

disagree  Francois Boye: You aren't ranked. You belong to a group that is on top of all the others, i.e., 81% of your peers.//Top 19th percentile = means that the 19th percentile is above all the others
2 days 6 hrs
  -> Sorry guys, but I still believe that "top" is a faux ami or pretence... Christian, could you give us more context/details to check if we are talking about a high performer or NOT?
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23 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
19e centile supérieur


Explanation:
Sources : Banque mondiale; Forum économique mondial; PRS Group; calculs des services du FMI.
20e-40e centile
20e supérieur

https://www.imf.org/external/french/pubs/ft/reo/2014/mcd/men...

Cette structure fiscale très progressive a d'énormes conséquences pour les États-Unis. Presque toutes les recettes fiscales fédérales proviennent du 20e centile supérieur.

https://www.adividedworld.com/fr/political-ideas/curious-err...

Ces graphes de Piketty montrent l’évolution de la part du centile supérieur (les 1% les plus riches) dans les salaires et les revenus.

http://gribeco.free.fr/spip.php?article20

Claire Nolan
Local time: 12:54
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: maybe not the usual formulation for school results, but you could say it that way also - at least you didn't put this candidate in the lowest 19%! / One way or another it's the personal score of this candidate, not some ranking of businesses.
2 hrs
  -> I don't think they are referring to school peers. The beginning of the sentence talks about improving engagement levels.
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
scored in top 19th percentile of peer group
était parmis les meilleurs 19% au sein de son groupe de pairs


Explanation:
a obtenu un résultat dans les 19% des meilleurs résultats au sien de son groupe de pairs

était parmis les meilleurs 19% au sein de son groupe de pairs


scored in top 19th percentile of peer group
=
Within this "peer group" (however defined) there are 19% of "pairs" that obtained the same of higher score, and 81% that obtained a lower score.

Which means that this candidate was in the 82nd percentile, as percentiles are counted starting from the lowest value of the variable, here from the lowest scores.

The first percentile are those at the total bottom of the class / peer group, those at very top are in the 100th percentile,

you could also say of this candidate:

"son résultat était dans le 82-ème centile"


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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2021-03-29 13:04:52 GMT)
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... the same or higher score ...

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:54
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 35

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  GILLES MEUNIER: parmi
10 hrs
  -> Alerte! L'obsédé du bouton rouge sous tout prétexte vaseux est dans les parages ...

disagree  Bruno Carlier: For me this is all the contrary. This candidate is not a high valued one: 19th percentile just means lagging behind; 81% of the reference group got higher scores… Besides, engagement level improved by 10bp (= 0.1% only!) is not very satisfactory…Isn’t it?
1 day 8 hrs
  -> R_e_a_d the text.
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1 day 2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
un score au dessus de celui de 81% de ses pairs


Explanation:
What does top 20th percentile mean?

Percentile indicates how many students have been outperformed by you in exam. Top 20 percentile means that you are ahead of 80% of the people.

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 12:54
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 73

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Bruno Carlier: No François, you are ahead of 80% of the people if you are 80th percentile...
18 hrs
  -> 81% +19% = 1000%. Can you add numbers?

agree  Daryo: exactly - shouldn't be so difficult to make the difference between "top" and "bottom" in a ranking system.
1 day 8 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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