Jan 22, 2023 10:28
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Spanish term
condición resolutoria
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Finance (general)
Hi. I'm translating Poder Especial from Spain, Girona. In the faculties it says:
"vender a favor de la persona o personas, naturales o jurídicas, que libremente elija, los derechos que les corresponden sobre la finca que se dirá, así como cualquier bien mueble, estipular el precio y condiciones, la forma de pago de presente, confesado o aplazado total o parcialmente y en tales casos aceptar toda clase de garantías personales y reales, incluso la hipotecaria y la condición resolutoria. Recibir en su día y caso..."
How can "condición resolutoria" be translated?
"vender a favor de la persona o personas, naturales o jurídicas, que libremente elija, los derechos que les corresponden sobre la finca que se dirá, así como cualquier bien mueble, estipular el precio y condiciones, la forma de pago de presente, confesado o aplazado total o parcialmente y en tales casos aceptar toda clase de garantías personales y reales, incluso la hipotecaria y la condición resolutoria. Recibir en su día y caso..."
How can "condición resolutoria" be translated?
Proposed translations
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| 4 +3 | condition subsequent |
Cristina Zavala
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| 2 +1 | condition defeasant |
Adrian MM.
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| 3 -1 | guarantee of payment imposed by the seller |
Stuart and Aida Nelson
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Proposed translations
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Cristina Zavala
Ecuador
Ecuador
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Works in field
Ecuador
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Native in: Spanish (Variant: Latin American) 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
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16
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condition subsequent
Condición resolutoria: La condición resolutoria es la definición de una garantía de pago. Suele tratarse de una cláusula que se incorpora a un contrato cuando se conviene o acuerda un determinado precio aplazado. Es la forma en la que el vendedor se asegura de hacer el cobro del pago correspondiente.
https://www.conceptosjuridicos.com/condicion-resolutoria/
CONDITION SUBSEQUENT: A condition that, if it occurs, will bring something else to an end; an event the existence of which, by agreement of the parties, discharges a duty of performance that has arisen (Black's Law Dict.)
CONDICIÓN RESOLUTORIA: condition subsequent (Dic. Jurídico Alcaraz Varo)
https://www.conceptosjuridicos.com/condicion-resolutoria/
CONDITION SUBSEQUENT: A condition that, if it occurs, will bring something else to an end; an event the existence of which, by agreement of the parties, discharges a duty of performance that has arisen (Black's Law Dict.)
CONDICIÓN RESOLUTORIA: condition subsequent (Dic. Jurídico Alcaraz Varo)
Peer comment(s):
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Stuart and Aida Nelson
: pero esto no es un contrato o cláusula ....// pero es que aquí estamos hablando de condición resolutoria no del poder en si.
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El poder se otorga para una actividad futura que es vender derechos, seguramente mediante un contrato o acuerdo formalizado
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Rebecca Jowers
: Yes, definitely (standard rendering in bilingual legal dictionaries--Alcaraz, West, Cabanellas, Ramírez); also Seen as similar concepts in Kinsella's "A Civil Law to Common Law Dictionary"
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Thanks!
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patinba
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Thanks!
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Richard Cadena
: You're most welcome. This term is also in Tom West's dictionary, Marina Orellana's Glossary, and my own dictionary published by the IMCP in 2013. Saludos
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Thanks!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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Stuart and Aida Nelson
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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&
English
Works in field
United Kingdom
English lawyer and German national
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
, Spanish (Variants: Standard-Spain, Latin American)
Works in: German to English, Italian to English, French to English, and 13 more.
guarantee of payment imposed by the seller
aceptar...... la condición resolutoria
accepting the guarantee of payment imposed by the seller
See definitions
condición resolutoria
Suceso futuro e incierto cuyo acaecimiento implica la extinción de la obligación o, en el caso de la sucesión, hace cesar los efectos de la institución de heredero.
https://dpej.rae.es/lema/condición-resolutoria#:~:text=Civ.,...
La condición resolutoria es la definición de una garantía de pago. Suele tratarse de una cláusula que se incorpora a un contrato cuando se conviene o acuerda un determinado precio aplazado. Es la forma en la que el vendedor se asegura de hacer el cobro del pago correspondiente.
https://www.conceptosjuridicos.com/condicion-resolutoria/
La condición resolutoria es una garantía de pago cuando en la compraventa se acuerda o conviene un precio aplazado y el vendedor lo que pretende es asegurarse el cobro de dicho precio.
https://www.legalitas.com/actualidad/que-es-una-condicion-re...
condicion resolutoria cancellation provision
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/7112128?bs=1#marker_submit
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: that is not a translation but an explanation// OK but there is a separate place for explanations; legal jargon in, legal jargon out, explanations separately
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Why can't you not use an explanation? A bit of a harsh approach to disagree because you explain an obscure phrase, I think :) How many times you have to explain things to your clients who have no clue of legal jargon.
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Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Specializes in field
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: Scottish, British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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147
condition defeasant
'We've had this one many times on ProZ'. In tnis context of '..garantías personales y reales, incluso la hipotecaria.. ', I think condition defeasant - namely defeating grant of the mortgage loan - works well, especially in conveyancing practic/se.
Otherwise, condition subsequent : West (vs. condition precedent) isa standard translation or - lest we forget in Scots Civil vs. English Common Law - a resolutive condition (vs. suspensive condition in Scots law).
Otherwise, condition subsequent : West (vs. condition precedent) isa standard translation or - lest we forget in Scots Civil vs. English Common Law - a resolutive condition (vs. suspensive condition in Scots law).
Example sentence:
Fulfillment of a defeasant condition and termination of a contract of *financial pledge* (charge) on the fixed assets of significant value (66/2015).
1. A rendering void; an annulment. 2. a. The voiding of a contract or deed. b. A clause within a contract or deed providing for annulment.
Reference:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-contracts/3005120-condición-resolutoria-tácita.html
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
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Thanks.
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Stuart and Aida Nelson
: but is it defeating? You might be right, but it's me trying to understand :). I did check in the glossary and search function and could only find one entry in Spanish for 'condición resolutaria - cancellation provision' which I'm not sure fits in here.
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What's 'defeated' need not be spelt out though in context could be collateral security > 'garantías personales y reales, incluso la hipotecaria', besides which there may be a gulf between ProZ entries and practical legal usage.
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Discussion
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@ Allegro
How happy I am that my professors at University granted me the title of Master in Translations and never gave me a bad score because I explained an obscure term in my work!!!