durée réelle de conservation du Véhicule

English translation: time during which the vehicle is held

12:35 Dec 3, 2022

French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / Vehicle rental contract

French term or phrase: durée réelle de conservation du Véhicule

Part of the t&cs for long-term vehicle leasing:

De convention expresse entre les Parties, lorsqu'un kilométrage parcouru est supérieur de 15% au kilométrage contractuel moyen calculé au prorata temporis ou lorsque la **durée réelle de conservation du Véhicule** est supérieure à la durée contractuelle de plus de six (6) mois est considéré comme une modification de l'économie du Contrat de Location et emportera de plein droit la modification corrélativement du Loyer du Véhicule qui fera l'objet d'une notification de modification du Contrat de Location par le Loueur auprès du Locataire.

Is this "actual period over which the vehicle has been kept"
or something like its "shelf life"?

My attempt at the whole para:

By express agreement between the Parties, where kilometrage travelled is greater than 15% of the average contractual kilometrage calculated pro rata temporis or where the **xxxxxxx** of the Vehicle is greater than the contractual term by more than six (6) months, this is deemed to have a financial impact on the Rental Contract and will automatically entail a consequent revision of the Lease Payment for the Vehicle which will be the subject of a notice of amendment of the Rental Contract by the Rental Company to the Hirer.

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Local time: 15:01

English translation:time during which the vehicle is held

Explanation:
Poyssonally I would say something along these lines:

By express agreement [between the Parties], A MILEAGE greater than 15% of the average contractual MILEAGE calculated pro rata temporis or A TIME DURING WHICH THE VEHICLE IS HELD THAT IS MORE THAN SIX (6) MONTHS LONGER than the contractual term [is/] shall be deemed to have a financial...

For the phrase in question, however, if you want validated actual usage, there is this:
"If the lessee does not return the vehicle or its key(s) to Sixt after expiry of the maximum agreed rental term (see section A point 1), either culpably or not, Sixt shall be entitled to demand payment in the amount of at least the previously agreed rental rate as compensation for use of the vehicle FOR THE PERIOD FOR WHICH THE VEHICLE IS DETAINED"
[General Terms and Conditions of Rental for SIXT share (Terms and Conditions)
https://sx-content-labs.sixt.io/Media/9share-pages-media/202...

Or this: "Rental Period’ means the hire period referred to on the Rental Agreement or any agreed variation thereof and any additional PERIOD DURING WHICH THE VEHICLE IS IN THE CUSTOMER’S POSSESSION OR CONTROL"
https://imjmotorhomes.co.uk/full-terms-and-conditions/

Selected response from:

Bourth
France
Local time: 16:01

Grading comment

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +3

time during which the vehicle is held

Bourth

3 +3

The actual length of time the vehicle is in their possession

ormiston

4 +1

the vehicle is retained

philgoddard

4 -1

actual Vehicle usage period

James A. Walsh

3 -1

Actual duration of the lease

Sandrine Rutter

3 -1

actual duration of vehicle holdership

SafeTex

2 -1

the actual duration of vehicle retention

Andrzej Ziomek

1 -2

actual rental of this vehicle

andres-larsen

Discussion entries: 8

Answers

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): -2

actual rental of this vehicle

Explanation:
... or the actual rental of this vehicle is in excess of its contractually stipulated duration by more than 6 months ...

... or the actual rental of this vehicle exceeds its contractually stipulated duration by more than 6 months ...

Terms and conditions - Goldcar hire a car
https://www.goldcar.es › ...
The return of the vehicle more than 59 minutes over the stated end time of the rental contract will generate a charge of € 40.00 per day plus an extra ...

andres-larsen
Venezuela
Local time: 10:01
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

the actual duration of vehicle retention

Explanation:
or '[...] of retaining the vehicle'

Reference: http://www.spglobal.com/mobility/en/research-analysis/are-yo...

Andrzej Ziomek
Poland
Local time: 16:01
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Polish

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

Actual duration of the lease

Explanation:
Actual duration of the lease versus the contractual duration of the lease?

https://www.leasefetcher.co.uk/guides/car-leasing-explained/car-lease-length#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20average%20car%20lease%20length%3F%20Y

Sandrine Rutter
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:01
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 4

9 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

durée réelle de conservation du Véhicule actual Vehicle usage period

Explanation:
I think "usage" is a more natural choice in English in this field...

“[…] ou lorsque la durée réelle de conservation du Véhicule est supérieure à la durée contractuelle de plus de six (6) mois […]”

“[…] or if the actual Vehicle usage period exceeds the period specified in the contract by more than six (6) months […]“

Example sentence(s):

“[…] ou lorsque la <b>durée réelle de conservation du Véhicule</b> est supérieure à la durée contractuelle de plus de six (6) mois […]”
“[…] or if the <b>actual Vehicle usage period</b> exceeds the period specified in the contract by more than six (6) months […]“

James A. Walsh
Spain
Local time: 16:01
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

disagree

Adrian MM.: the Vehicle might be kept in possession without being used.//Possession doesn't equal ownership, even though a sub-lessor might be labelled 'owner' (UK HP legislation). Besides, the vehicle fleet could be laid up in a car pound, So impossible to 'use'.

14 mins

-> I toyed with "possession" a lot, but based on research went with "usage", regardless of this possibility / "Possession" also carries strong notions of "ownership", which is not the case here

agree

Andrew Bramhall: Whether actually in use or how often or not in use is irrelevant to lease terms.

1 hr

-> My thoughts exactly! Thanks, Andrew.

disagree

Tony M: I agree with Adrian: the length of time it is held is not by any means necessarily the length of time it is being used; hence the use of 'conservation' in FR rather than say 'utilisation'.

1 day 11 hrs

15 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

actual duration of vehicle holdership

Explanation:
Hello

I think it's the time you have the vehicle in your possession but "possessorship" does not work as you are not the owner."Tenure" might work too but as it's normally only used for jobs or land, people might object

SafeTex
France
Local time: 16:01
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 47

Notes to answerer

Asker: can't say I like "holdership"

1 day 21 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

the vehicle is retained

Explanation:
...for more than six months longer than the contractual term.

I don't think you need to translate "réelle".

philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 295

1 day 12 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

time during which the vehicle is held

Bourth
France
Local time: 16:01
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

1 day 22 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

The actual length of time the vehicle is in their possession

Explanation:
Plenty ideas here but this might nail it

ormiston
Local time: 16:01
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 24

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