culs-de-bouteille des verrières

English translation: bullseye / bulls-eye / bullion glass

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French term or phrase:cul-de-bouteille
English translation:bullseye / bulls-eye / bullion glass
Entered by: Tony M

14:38 Apr 20, 2022
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Architecture
French term or phrase: culs-de-bouteille des verrières
Is anyone able to confirm whether 'bottle-bottom windows' would be the correct term here rather than simply a literal translation? The term comes up in the description of a painting, where the windows in question are those of an old chapel. (The painting in question is Isaïe d'Issenheim by Gérard Garouste.)
There are plenty of hits on Google, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything and I'm keen to have the correct architectural term.
Anne McDowall
France
Local time: 19:50
bullseye glass (used in the...)
Explanation:
I think this is what is being referred to here — which is rather born out by the fact that same photo is used to illustrate the Wikipedia article as Anastatsia has found in her FR ref.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_(window)

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I've also heard this referred to as 'bullion glass', though I think that is in fact an error of terminology.
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Tony M
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4 +3bullseye glass (used in the...)
Tony M
4 -2Stained Glass
Anastasia Kalantzi
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nice picture here
liz askew

  

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bullseye glass (used in the...)


Explanation:
I think this is what is being referred to here — which is rather born out by the fact that same photo is used to illustrate the Wikipedia article as Anastatsia has found in her FR ref.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_(window)

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I've also heard this referred to as 'bullion glass', though I think that is in fact an error of terminology.

Tony M
France
Local time: 19:50
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 143
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Tony M, I think you've cracked it!!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew Bramhall: Yes, there's also a famous glass company in Portland Oregon called that
6 mins
  -> Thanks, Andrew! Yes, I was quite surprised to see there are in fact more than one, even.

agree  Samuël Buysschaert
53 mins
  -> Merci, Samuël !

agree  Bourth: I'm more familiar with 'bull's-eye' too, but the Dict. of Arch. & Const. gives 'bullion' as meaning 'bull's eye' for this kind of glass too.
1 hr
  -> Oh, thanks, and also for confirming!
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Stained Glass


Explanation:
The term stained glass refers either to coloured glass as a material or to works created from it. Throughout its thousand-year history, the term has been applied almost exclusively to the windows of churches and other significant religious buildings. Although traditionally made in flat panels and used as windows, the creations of modern stained glass artists also include three-dimensional structures and sculpture. Modern vernacular usage has often extended the term "stained glass" to include domestic lead light and objets d'art created from foil glasswork exemplified in the famous lamps of Louis Comfort Tiffany.

As a material stained glass is glass that has been coloured by adding metallic salts during its manufacture, and usually then further decorating it in various ways. The coloured glass is crafted into stained glass windows in which small pieces of glass are arranged to form patterns or pictures, held together (traditionally) by strips of lead and supported by a rigid frame. Painted details and yellow stain are often used to enhance the design. The term stained glass is also applied to windows in enamelled glass in which the colours have been painted onto the glass and then fused to the glass in a kiln; very often this technique is only applied to parts of a window.


Renaissance roundel, inserted into a plain glass window, using only black or brown glass paint, and silver stain in a range of yellows and gold. The local bishop-saint Lambrecht of Maastricht stands in an extensive landscape, 1510–20. The diameter is 8+3⁄4 in (22 cm), and the piece was designed to be placed low, close to the viewer, very possibly not in a church.
Stained glass, as an art and a craft, requires the artistic skill to conceive an appropriate and workable design, and the engineering skills to assemble the piece. A window must fit snugly into the space for which it is made, must resist wind and rain, and also, especially in the larger windows, must support its own weight. Many large windows have withstood the test of time and remained substantially intact since the Late Middle Ages. In Western Europe, together with illuminated manuscripts, they constitute the major form of medieval pictorial art to have survived. In this context, the purpose of a stained glass window is not to allow those within a building to see the world outside or even primarily to admit light but rather to control it. For this reason stained glass windows have been described as "illuminated wall decorations".

The design of a window may be abstract or figurative; may incorporate narratives drawn from the Bible, history, or literature; may represent saints or patrons, or use symbolic motifs, in particular armorial. Windows within a building may be thematic, for example: within a church – episodes from the life of Christ; within a parliament building – shields of the constituencies; within a college hall – figures representing the arts and sciences; or within a home – flora, fauna, or landscape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stained_glass
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Gothic_stained_glass_wi...
http://www.norfolkstainedglass.org/Glossary/glossary.shtm


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https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/cul-de-bouteille



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STAINED GLASS WINDOWS
https://gr.pinterest.com/pin/394416879849195000/

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CROWN GLASS (WINDOW)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_(window)
Crown glass was an early type of window glass. In this process, glass was blown into a "crown" or hollow globe. This was then transferred from the blowpipe to a punty and then flattened by reheating and spinning out the bowl-shaped piece of glass (bullion) into a flat disk by centrifugal force, up to 5 or 6 feet (1.5 to 1.8 metres) in diameter. The glass was then cut to the size required.[1]

The thinnest glass was in a band at the edge of the disk, with the glass becoming thicker and more opaque toward the center. Known as a bullseye, the thicker center area around the pontil mark was used for less expensive windows. To fill large window spaces with the best glass, many small diamond shapes were cut from the edge of the disk, and then some might be halved into triangles. These were mounted in a lead lattice work and fitted into the window frame.

Crown glass was one of the two most common processes for making window glass until the 19th century. The other was blown plate. Crown glass window panes with ceramic frames have been found at Soba East, the medieval capital of Alodia. They are only 110–115 millimetres (4.3–4.5 in) in diameter and were probably used to provide light in storerooms.[2] The process of making crown glass window panes was perfected by French glassmakers in the 1320s, notably around Rouen, and was a trade secret. Hence crown glass was not made in London until 1678.

Crown glass is one of many types of hand-blown glass. Other methods include: broad sheet, blown plate, polished plate and cylinder blown sheet. These methods of manufacture lasted at least until the end of the 19th century. The early 20th century marks the move away from hand-blown to machine-manufactured glass such as rolled plate, machine drawn cylinder sheet, flat drawn sheet, single and twin ground polished plate and float glass

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CROWN GLASS (WINDOW)

Anastasia Kalantzi
Greece
Local time: 20:50
Native speaker of: Greek
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for taking the time to reply in length, Anastasia. Unfortunately, stained glass doesn't work in this instance. I should have provided a link, rather than just the title of the painting, in my post: if you click below, you'll see that the glass in the window in question is clear. https://artifexinopere.com/blog/2017/02/11/ The term here refers to the form of the glass rather than the colour, it seems.

Asker: @Tony M: yes, the photo above shows what I'm trying to find the correct English term for.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: I don't believe this refers to 'stained glass' in general, but rather, to these elements included within it, as your last photo shows. But you have misinterpreted the Wiki article!
5 mins

neutral  mchd: et "cul-de-bouteille" ???
13 mins

disagree  Andrew Bramhall: Agree with TM
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Reference comments


2 hrs
Reference: nice picture here

Reference information:
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/cul-de-bouteille#/media/Fichi...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_(window)


looks like "crown glass"

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https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/452963675001669966

It is beautiful!

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https://termipankki.fi/tepa/en/search/crown glass

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 23

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  Tony M: Yes, Liz — but these 'lumpy bits' are only one PART of 'crown glass', the 'bulls-eye' in the centre, which is what the context here is concerned with.
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