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بين الصورة المرئية واللامرئية

English translation: Regardless of what takes place behind the scenes, however...

11:16 Jul 28, 2021
Arabic to English translations [PRO]
Sports / Fitness / Recreation / Football
Arabic term or phrase: بين الصورة المرئية واللامرئية
Hi guys,

I'm translating an article about the similarities and differences between football and writing. Here's the full context:
من الخارج، ترى ملعبًا ولاعبين ومحكمين. أما واقعًا، فيشارك فيها زعماء وسياسيون ورجال المافيا والأثرياء… وبين الصورة المرئية واللامرئية، لا ننتظر نحن سوى بهجة عابرة يقدمها لنا أبطال يركضون من دول العالم كله خلف طابة واحدة.

For the moment, I've translated this phrase as "whether or not we are seeing the whole picture". I think the phrase is alluding to the fact that there may be questionable things happening in the background of the football world, and some people are uncomfortable with the amount of money pumped into it, but at the end of the day, if you're a football fan, you're willing to overlook those things.

Draft translation:
...but in reality, there are many more people involved: world leaders and politicians, mobsters and the wealthy... and whether or not we are seeing the whole picture, all we really care about is that fleeting joy offered to us by heroes from around the world, running behind a single ball.

Have I got the right idea? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Anam
A Zafar
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:33
English translation:Regardless of what takes place behind the scenes, however...
Explanation:
Another way to put it.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2021-07-28 13:39:18 GMT)
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Regardless of what takes place behind the scenes, however, all we really care about is...
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Arabic & More
Jordan
Grading comment
Of course, why didn't I think of this myself! That's what ProZ is for, I suppose... Thank you :)
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2between apparent and unapparent image
TargamaT team
3 +1visible and invisible image
mona elshazly
4And whether we know the whole picture or not ...
Yassine El Bouknify
4Regardless of what takes place behind the scenes, however...
Arabic & More
4between the game we see and (the invisible) driving powers/actors (behind the scene)
Saeed Najmi
3 +1between the conspicuous and the obscure
Milena Atanasova


Discussion entries: 2





  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
visible and invisible image


Explanation:
visible and invisible image

mona elshazly
Egypt
Local time: 14:33
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Assem AlKhallouf: "between the visible and the invisible" About 2,730,000 Google hits.
5 hrs
  -> Thanks so much
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
between apparent and unapparent image


Explanation:
In this context...

TargamaT team
France
Local time: 13:33
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Abd Alrahman Almidani: I agree with "apparent" because it refers to things that are clear to the mind and the eye.
14 mins
  -> شكرًا جزيلاً
agree  Assem AlKhallouf
5 hrs
  -> شكرًا جزيلاً
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
And whether we know the whole picture or not ...


Explanation:


You're right. The writer is alluding to what we see as an audience, and what goes on behind the scenes.

Yassine El Bouknify
Morocco
Local time: 12:33
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Regardless of what takes place behind the scenes, however...


Explanation:
Another way to put it.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2021-07-28 13:39:18 GMT)
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Regardless of what takes place behind the scenes, however, all we really care about is...

Arabic & More
Jordan
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Of course, why didn't I think of this myself! That's what ProZ is for, I suppose... Thank you :)
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
between the game we see and (the invisible) driving powers/actors (behind the scene)


Explanation:
the invisible/behind the scene
between what we see and the actual invisible actors

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Note added at 2 hrs (2021-07-28 13:47:48 GMT)
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You may also consider "in the dark" instead of "invisible" or " behind the scene"

Saeed Najmi
Morocco
Local time: 12:33
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
between the conspicuous and the obscure


Explanation:
I'd say I'd personally skip "image" altogether. If it's perceived visually, it's obviously an image.

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Note added at 20 hrs (2021-07-29 07:52:42 GMT)
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'between what meets the eye and what happens behind the scenes', although this is anything but concise.

Milena Atanasova
Bulgaria
Local time: 14:33
Native speaker of: Bulgarian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Assem AlKhallouf
4 hrs
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