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justicia propia
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Para una articulación descolonizadora entre la justicia estatal y la justicia propia
El presente documento subraya la importancia de descolonizar la justicia estatal en un escenario de justicia transicional. De esta manera se puede desarrollar y materializar el pluralismo jurídico, con miras a generar procesos restaurativos que dignifiquen los derechos de los pueblos indígenas, rrom, negros, afrocolombianos, raizales y palenqueros, afectados de manera grave, diferenciada pero siempre desproporcionada, en el marco del conflicto armado. La idea central de este documento es: el derecho ordinario representa un proyecto hegemónico monocultural, que se disfraza, se cambia de nombre, se apropia de luchas y se adapta, para silenciar sujetos considerados como “otros” en sus múltiples y variados procesos y contextos culturales. La opresión y exclusión, si bien no nacen en el derecho, son muchas veces legitimadas y profundizadas por el derecho. Las normas jurídicas sirven como meros enunciados de formas ideales de conductas o derechos, que en la práctica no se materializan sobre todo con relación a las poblaciones o los pueblos que más se podrían beneficiar con la aplicación efectiva de las normas.
El presente documento subraya la importancia de descolonizar la justicia estatal en un escenario de justicia transicional. De esta manera se puede desarrollar y materializar el pluralismo jurídico, con miras a generar procesos restaurativos que dignifiquen los derechos de los pueblos indígenas, rrom, negros, afrocolombianos, raizales y palenqueros, afectados de manera grave, diferenciada pero siempre desproporcionada, en el marco del conflicto armado. La idea central de este documento es: el derecho ordinario representa un proyecto hegemónico monocultural, que se disfraza, se cambia de nombre, se apropia de luchas y se adapta, para silenciar sujetos considerados como “otros” en sus múltiples y variados procesos y contextos culturales. La opresión y exclusión, si bien no nacen en el derecho, son muchas veces legitimadas y profundizadas por el derecho. Las normas jurídicas sirven como meros enunciados de formas ideales de conductas o derechos, que en la práctica no se materializan sobre todo con relación a las poblaciones o los pueblos que más se podrían beneficiar con la aplicación efectiva de las normas.
Proposed translations
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| 4 | private justice / customary justice |
EirTranslations
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| 3 +2 | justice in the true sense |
AllegroTrans
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| 3 | Justice for its own sake |
Meridy Lippoldt
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| 3 | personal justice |
Lisa Rosengard
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References
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Taña Dalglish
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Proposed translations
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EirTranslations
Ireland
Ireland
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English
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Ireland
20 yrs+ quality translations, Trados
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, English (Variants: British, Irish, UK, US)
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private justice / customary justice
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https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/65...
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Customary law is informal and is geared to the needs of the people it serves. It is not written down and rarely requires reference to broad generalisations or abstractions or to carefully constructed analogies from the past. It is characterised mostly by its remarkable flexibility and pluralism. As indicated earlier, it differs from place to place and ethnic group to ethnic group, and even from time to time within a single area as leaders change. The customary justice system therefore does not emphasise rules for the delivery of justice, such as fairness, nor does it endeavour to emphasise the rule of law.
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Also see
https://worldjusticeproject.org/sites/default/files/customar...
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/65...
See also
Customary law is informal and is geared to the needs of the people it serves. It is not written down and rarely requires reference to broad generalisations or abstractions or to carefully constructed analogies from the past. It is characterised mostly by its remarkable flexibility and pluralism. As indicated earlier, it differs from place to place and ethnic group to ethnic group, and even from time to time within a single area as leaders change. The customary justice system therefore does not emphasise rules for the delivery of justice, such as fairness, nor does it endeavour to emphasise the rule of law.
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Also see
https://worldjusticeproject.org/sites/default/files/customar...
Reference:
http://https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/6546116-justicia-propia.html
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thank you"
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Meridy Lippoldt
United States
United States
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United States
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Justice for its own sake
While it is true that custom has served as a subsidiary source of law at least in the common law system (see James' Introduction to English Law), I don't think it is what is meant in the present context. It seems to meet that the author of the text wants to differentiate between statutory justice and what he/she considers to be real or actual justice.
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Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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personal justice
Se trata de individuos entre contextos de cultura variada.
(It's in connection with individuals among contexts of diverse culture.)
The intentions of maintaining social welfare and good health alongside the existing laws and rules on social conduct compared with the reality of the difficulties which may arise among social diversity are mentioned.
(Se mencionan las intenciones de mantener el bienestar social y la buena salud al lado de las leyes existentes y las reglas sobre la conducta social, comparadas con la realidad de las dificultades que pueden surgir entre los pueblos de diversidad social y cultural.)
"Justicia Propia y desplazamiento forzado en la comunidad:
Para analizar esta problemática se contó con el derecho como ciencia normativa, en cuanto describe reglas de comportamiento social, así como el papel que establece frente al desplazamiento forzado, al derecho propio y a los derechos de los pueblos indígenas, la materialización de estos y los impactos en la aplicación de justicias dadas diferencias. Esta diversidad de factores hace necesaria una visión global de la realidad que viven estas poblaciones."
"Personal justice and enforced displacement in the community:
In order to analyse this issue, law is recognised as a standard of knowledge as soon as it denotes rules of social conduct (maxims). Therefore it defines the role which is established before enforced displacements, to the personal justice and the rights of native communities (townships), the materialisation of such and the impacts of the application of the differing given justices. This diversity of elements (agents or contributing factors) necessitates a global vision of the reality in which those population groups live."
(It's in connection with individuals among contexts of diverse culture.)
The intentions of maintaining social welfare and good health alongside the existing laws and rules on social conduct compared with the reality of the difficulties which may arise among social diversity are mentioned.
(Se mencionan las intenciones de mantener el bienestar social y la buena salud al lado de las leyes existentes y las reglas sobre la conducta social, comparadas con la realidad de las dificultades que pueden surgir entre los pueblos de diversidad social y cultural.)
"Justicia Propia y desplazamiento forzado en la comunidad:
Para analizar esta problemática se contó con el derecho como ciencia normativa, en cuanto describe reglas de comportamiento social, así como el papel que establece frente al desplazamiento forzado, al derecho propio y a los derechos de los pueblos indígenas, la materialización de estos y los impactos en la aplicación de justicias dadas diferencias. Esta diversidad de factores hace necesaria una visión global de la realidad que viven estas poblaciones."
"Personal justice and enforced displacement in the community:
In order to analyse this issue, law is recognised as a standard of knowledge as soon as it denotes rules of social conduct (maxims). Therefore it defines the role which is established before enforced displacements, to the personal justice and the rights of native communities (townships), the materialisation of such and the impacts of the application of the differing given justices. This diversity of elements (agents or contributing factors) necessitates a global vision of the reality in which those population groups live."
Example sentence:
Las normas jurídicas sirven como meros enunciados de formas ideales de conductas o derechos, que en la práctica no se materializan sobre todo con relación a las poblaciones o a los pueblos que más se podrían beneficiar con la aplicación efectiva de
Legal norms serve as mere statements ideally from 'conduct and law', which, in practice do not become reality, particularly with respect to native populations or communities which could benefit from an effective application of lawful norms or rules.
Reference:
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2 days 3 hrs
AllegroTrans
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United Kingdom
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justice in the true sense
I think the writer is using the term in this way. A subjective notion perhaps, but the contrast is clear...
Eric Weinstein on Twitter: "Karff comes from the Kavarsarsky ...
twitter.com › ericrweinstein › status
8 Sep 2020 - We were very proud of Sam's accomplishments as a Rabbi in Texas as a voice for tolerance, wisdom and social justice (in the true sense).
Kulbhushan Jadhav case highlights: Truth and justice have ...
www.hindustantimes.com › india-news › kulbhushan-ja...
23 Jul 2019 - “ICJ delivers 'justice' in the true sense of that word, upholding human rights, due procedure and the rule of law,” tweets P. Chidambaram ...
A rose by any other name... - Children's and Young People's ...
www.cycj.org.uk › a-rose-by-any-other-name
27 Aug 2020 - Children and young people's experiences are also not always reflective of justice in the true sense of the word, with children in need of love, ...
Legal Pluralism and Social Justice in Economic and Political ...
opendocs.ids.ac.uk › opendocs › handle
... normative order — whether state or non?state, public or private — on people's rights over essential resources and on their 'access to justice', in the true sense.
(PDF) Plea Bargaining and the Administration of Criminal ...
www.researchgate.net › publication › 320439877_Plea_B...
as practiced does not directly translate to justice in the true sense. To this end, Socrates'. opposition is quite understandable because he was poised to construe ...
The Idea of Justice in Christian Perspective - Reformational ...
www.reformationalpublishingproject.com › pdf_books
PDF
That is to say, there is no longer room for an idea of justice in the true sense of the word. Page 9. 5. In this connection the study of James Burnham's The Man-.
by J Dengerink - Cited by 14 - Related articles
Eric Weinstein on Twitter: "Karff comes from the Kavarsarsky ...
twitter.com › ericrweinstein › status
8 Sep 2020 - We were very proud of Sam's accomplishments as a Rabbi in Texas as a voice for tolerance, wisdom and social justice (in the true sense).
Kulbhushan Jadhav case highlights: Truth and justice have ...
www.hindustantimes.com › india-news › kulbhushan-ja...
23 Jul 2019 - “ICJ delivers 'justice' in the true sense of that word, upholding human rights, due procedure and the rule of law,” tweets P. Chidambaram ...
A rose by any other name... - Children's and Young People's ...
www.cycj.org.uk › a-rose-by-any-other-name
27 Aug 2020 - Children and young people's experiences are also not always reflective of justice in the true sense of the word, with children in need of love, ...
Legal Pluralism and Social Justice in Economic and Political ...
opendocs.ids.ac.uk › opendocs › handle
... normative order — whether state or non?state, public or private — on people's rights over essential resources and on their 'access to justice', in the true sense.
(PDF) Plea Bargaining and the Administration of Criminal ...
www.researchgate.net › publication › 320439877_Plea_B...
as practiced does not directly translate to justice in the true sense. To this end, Socrates'. opposition is quite understandable because he was poised to construe ...
The Idea of Justice in Christian Perspective - Reformational ...
www.reformationalpublishingproject.com › pdf_books
That is to say, there is no longer room for an idea of justice in the true sense of the word. Page 9. 5. In this connection the study of James Burnham's The Man-.
by J Dengerink - Cited by 14 - Related articles
Peer comment(s):
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Adrian MM.
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thanks Adrian
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Antonella Perazzoni
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grazie Antonella
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Reference comments
2 hrs
Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Jamaica
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Jamaica
Translating the Ideas Behind the Words
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Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 2 more.
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735
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The last two links seems to allude to "indigenous justice" or perhaps autonomous justice might be a good term to describe justice among the indigenous tribes mentioned.
Truth, Justice and Reparation - Organization of American Stateswww.oas.org › iachr › reports › pdfs › Colombia-Truth-J...DOC
The Commission has also noted the many initiatives taken by the State, as well as the ... to the military criminal justice, and the mechanisms that have been adopted by the Office ... Transitional justice in the context of an ongoing armed conflict ... peasants; indigenous peoples; black, Afro-Colombian, Raizal, and Palenquero ...
https://www.peaceagreements.org/view/1547
Page 66, Article 5.2. Commitment with the promotion, respect and guarantee of human rights,
The end of the conflict is the best opportunity to achieve the rights of victims to truth, justice, reparation and non-repetition, and generally ensure the full realization of human rights for everyone, including women, children, adolescents, young and elderly people, persons with disabilities, indigenous peoples, peasant, Afro-Colombian populations, black, Palenqueras and Raizales, the LGBTI population and defenders of human rights, trade unionists, journalists, farmers, ranchers, traders and businessmen and -women; which also implies the adoption of affirmative action measures to fully guarantee the rights of those who have been most affected by the conflict. Peace as a fundamental right of all citizens is a necessary condition for the exercise and enjoyment of all other rights.
Justicia autónoma frente a justicia oficial - SciELOwww.scielo.org.mx › scielo
This paper describes the differences that oppose the Western conception of justice to the ... Key words: Autonomy, community justice, rights of indigenous people, EZLN, ... El Derecho a impartir o administrar una justicia propia de los pueblos ... de una comunidad indígena es "procesado y castigado por la justicia estatal, ...
Indigenous Autonomies and Gender Justice: Women's dispute ...projects.iq.harvard.edu › files › indigenous › files › cap...
PDF
Oct 15, 1995 - By decentering discourses on indigenous law (“justicia propia”) through a gender perspective ... identification with the autonomous justice and security system itself. ... focus on two aspects that show different domains of women's agency regarding the ... Bogotá: Universidad de Nacional de Colombia - ILSA.
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community justice is another option.
Truth, Justice and Reparation - Organization of American Stateswww.oas.org › iachr › reports › pdfs › Colombia-Truth-J...DOC
The Commission has also noted the many initiatives taken by the State, as well as the ... to the military criminal justice, and the mechanisms that have been adopted by the Office ... Transitional justice in the context of an ongoing armed conflict ... peasants; indigenous peoples; black, Afro-Colombian, Raizal, and Palenquero ...
https://www.peaceagreements.org/view/1547
Page 66, Article 5.2. Commitment with the promotion, respect and guarantee of human rights,
The end of the conflict is the best opportunity to achieve the rights of victims to truth, justice, reparation and non-repetition, and generally ensure the full realization of human rights for everyone, including women, children, adolescents, young and elderly people, persons with disabilities, indigenous peoples, peasant, Afro-Colombian populations, black, Palenqueras and Raizales, the LGBTI population and defenders of human rights, trade unionists, journalists, farmers, ranchers, traders and businessmen and -women; which also implies the adoption of affirmative action measures to fully guarantee the rights of those who have been most affected by the conflict. Peace as a fundamental right of all citizens is a necessary condition for the exercise and enjoyment of all other rights.
Justicia autónoma frente a justicia oficial - SciELOwww.scielo.org.mx › scielo
This paper describes the differences that oppose the Western conception of justice to the ... Key words: Autonomy, community justice, rights of indigenous people, EZLN, ... El Derecho a impartir o administrar una justicia propia de los pueblos ... de una comunidad indígena es "procesado y castigado por la justicia estatal, ...
Indigenous Autonomies and Gender Justice: Women's dispute ...projects.iq.harvard.edu › files › indigenous › files › cap...
Oct 15, 1995 - By decentering discourses on indigenous law (“justicia propia”) through a gender perspective ... identification with the autonomous justice and security system itself. ... focus on two aspects that show different domains of women's agency regarding the ... Bogotá: Universidad de Nacional de Colombia - ILSA.
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community justice is another option.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Toni Castano
: Thanks for the references, very useful as always. Without a proper explanation from asker (why the same question again), this is all guesswork. [Stay safe + take care]
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Thanks Toni. Appreciate your good thoughts and continue to look after yourself and family!
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Discussion
Quite apart from this, I tend to think like you, Taña, "private justice" seems odd in this context, just my personal opinion.
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/international-...
Context international organizations (vigilante justice was the chosen answer)
Pistacho's question 31 July 2018 (and a bit of discussion here).
Personally, I don't think "private justice" works here.
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/65...
Spanish term or phrase: justicia propia
English translation: private justice / customary justice