Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

cat

English answer:

moggy

Added to glossary by Tony M
Sep 5, 2016 05:54
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English term

cat

English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
Cat you give me another word for "cat"?

In this novel, an old woman, more like a witch, is saying that the cats are hinding from the demons. At least that's what I understand. She doesn't use "cat", but a more coloquial term... I'm translating from Romanian to English.
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Sep 6, 2016 09:23: Tony M Created KOG entry

Discussion

Lincoln Hui Sep 5, 2016:
If you want the general reader to understand it without looking it up, "kitty" and "feline" are probably your only choices.
airmailrpl Sep 5, 2016:
cat synonyms: feline, tomcat, tom, kitten, mouser, alley cat, pussy (cat), puss, kitty, furball, grimalkin
Charles Davis Sep 5, 2016:
Ah In that case you could consider it; it depends on the general style you're using and the implications of the word in context. One thing about grimalkin is that as well as literally being a cat it also meant a spiteful old woman or witch.
Adela Porumbel (asker) Sep 5, 2016:
historical setting It is set in a historical setting, middle ages from what I understand. Don't know if they are her own cats, more like cats living around the house, in the countryside.
Charles Davis Sep 5, 2016:
@Adde "Grimalkins" does exist, but the word is archaic and literary and nobody would use it nowadays (many people wouldn't even understand what it means). It's certainly not colloquial. If the novel is set in a historical context (nineteenth century or earlier) it might be an option, but not otherwise.
Tony M Sep 5, 2016:
@ Asker Are they HER OWN cats? Or all cats in general? or some specific group of cats?

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moggy

Often used derogatorily for a rather scruffy cat, usually someone else's — but also possible as a form of inverted snobbery for referring more or less affectionately to one's own cat.

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See comments from C.D. regarding his suggestion of 'grimalkin'.

'Moggies' can certainly be use din the plural OK.
Note from asker:
Both work great! Never heard of grimalkin before, but now I understand. Can I use them in plural, grimalkins or moggies? It has to be simething like: "them moggies are hiding" said the old witchy woman.
Peer comment(s):

agree Charles Davis : Good one, though it depends on the implicit tone of the passage. I like "grimalkin", in Shakespearean vein (see witches in Macbeth), but it wouldn't work in a modern idiom.
6 mins
Thanks, Charles! Oh yes 'grimalkin' is great — but as you say, perhaps not in a modern context.
agree Jack Doughty : OK, but only for British English. I recently discovered that it is not known in the USA.
1 hr
Thanks, Jack! Don't know what they call them over there... I know 'pussy' is out ;-)
agree Christine Andersen : I thought of Grimalkin, but would probably go for this one in your context.
3 hrs
Thanks, Christine!
agree B D Finch : I once shocked an American friend by calling a cat by the "P" word. As it only got its rude meaning through rhyming slang, it seems counterproductive to make the word accompanying the omitted rhyme word taboo.
4 hrs
Thanks, B! I had no idea it was rhyming slang! I know I made my US bro-in-law splutter his tea when I said I'd seen my neighbour's cute little black one...
agree Yvonne Gallagher : but not for US...maybe kitty cat?. Funny discussion here http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/moggy.938918/
4 hrs
Thanks, G!
neutral Rachel Fell : not really a term for mediaeval cats/cats in the middle ages, though, to my mind //Yes, I realise, though I never use the term myself.
11 hrs
Well, in all fairness, I posted this long before we had any historical context; but I think it is an old-fashioned enough word to fit, if the general language of the text is contemporary rather than archaic.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you to all involved. I used "moggy" in the end. "
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pussy

There are other words representing a cat, but I think this one is most commonly used to refer to a cat.
Peer comment(s):

neutral El oso : The term you are suggesting is MUCH more commonly used to refer to smth else. And I am too much of a gentleman to say what it is :-)
2 hrs
Yes, I know that and I know what you mean. Anyway, thanks for your comments.
neutral Tony M : Certainly unwise for the US, where it seems not to be known in its feline meaning known but still sniggered at in the UK (remember Mrs Slocombe's?)
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Maybe mine was an unwise suggestion. Thanks for your comments, Tony-san!
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feline friend

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alley cats

Alley cats sound somewhat urban to me, but there are alleys where they can lurk in country villages, too.
The Aristocats were popular on both sides of the water in my distant childhood, especially Thomas O´Malley, the Alley Cat.

I like moggy/moggies, but I am British...

Apparently the word moggy was originally a Lancashire(?) dialect word for a mouse. The farmyard cat was called the moggy-catcher, which was shortened and used more widely as moggy for the cat.

Some friends of mine had a beautiful grey cat, officially named Smokey Joe, but he sometimes answered to Smoggy.
Neither of those names would be universally understood, however.
He chased his tail, arched his back and hopped sideways like a real witch´s cat when the mood took him!

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Note added at 3 hrs (2016-09-05 09:22:25 GMT)
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Under CAT, my thesaurus also gives feline and mouser apart from grimalkin and a couple of other things I had never heard of.
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