Apr 15, 2014 18:30
10 yrs ago
English term

Great descend

English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
"He took an interest in social work...He was very active upon committees; he was very prominent and useful on all social occasions, in evidence upon platforms and upon all those semi-public occasions when the Great descend."

It is a quotation from Kipps, a novel published in 1905. There is nothing else about "the Great descend" in the novel. The present action of the novel locates after 1892.
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Apr 16, 2014 08:32: B D Finch changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

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PRO (3): Yvonne Gallagher, Ildiko Santana, B D Finch

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English term (edited): when the Great descend
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Great = important people / descend = come down to be seen by the people

The meaning is obvious, but the explanation rather trickier!

'the Great' means important people, VIPs — these might be First Sea Lords, Royalty, the Viceroy of India... and so on, down of course to local dignitaries like the Mayor of the town. The key point is that these are people who (at least in their own eyes) need to be treated with special dignity and decorum (we have an expression in EN "the Great and the Good", which conjures up similar images of people who consider themselves important).

As for 'descend' it is an unusual word to choose, almost certainly a deliberate stylistic device to infer that these 'great' people have deigned to come down from their lofty places (and cf. '...descended from Heaven...') to allow themselves to be seen by the hoi-polloi, the ordianry folk. Cf. also the word 'condescend', the similarity with which would not I think go unnoticed.
Peer comment(s):

agree B D Finch
5 mins
Thanks, B! :-)
agree JaneTranslates : Spot on. Well explained, as usual.
10 mins
Thanks a lot, Jane!
agree DLyons
11 mins
Thanks, D!
agree acetran
16 mins
Thanks, Harshsi!
agree Yvonne Gallagher
56 mins
Thanks, G!
agree Piyush Ojha : Exactly!
1 hr
Thanks, Piyush!
agree Peter Simon
1 hr
Thanks, Peter!
agree Ildiko Santana
8 hrs
Thanks, Ildiko!
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3 mins

when VIPs visit (unexpectedly)

The Great and Good is a common phrase.
Peer comment(s):

neutral B D Finch : Why "unexpectedly"?
9 mins
Because "descend" is stronger than just visit. It doesn't have to be unexpected but often is I feel.
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11 mins

when important people visit places below their station

The VIPS are descending in the sense of coming down from their elevated usual surroundings to places frequented by ordinary people.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M
3 mins
Thanks Tony
agree JaneTranslates
14 mins
Thanks Jane
agree Yvonne Gallagher
52 mins
Thanks Gallagy
agree Ildiko Santana
8 hrs
Thanks Ildiko
neutral Armorel Young : You can be "descended on" by people equal to you in status - the OED has "make an unexpected and usually unwelcome visit".
13 hrs
That is another meaning of "descend", which does not fit the present context.
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