Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
XXX... padeció el colonialismo...
English translation:
XXX has felt the impact of ... colonialism / ... colonialism has left its mark on XXX
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Bubo Coroman (X)
Feb 9, 2009 19:15
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Spanish term
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padecer (ver contexto por favor)
Spanish to English
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"XXX, como tantos otros países, padeció el colonialismo inglés."
The point is, I do not like any of the possible literal translations: endure, bear, put up with, suffer, etc., but would like to convey the idea in a manner that sounds more natural in English. My latest attempt is:
" Like so many other countries, XXX has felt the impact of English colonialism."
Important: The country in question has never been a British colony.
Any thoughts?? TIA!!!
The point is, I do not like any of the possible literal translations: endure, bear, put up with, suffer, etc., but would like to convey the idea in a manner that sounds more natural in English. My latest attempt is:
" Like so many other countries, XXX has felt the impact of English colonialism."
Important: The country in question has never been a British colony.
Any thoughts?? TIA!!!
Proposed translations
(English)
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Feb 14, 2009 17:47: Bubo Coroman (X) Created KOG entry
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XXX has felt the impact of English colonialism / English colonialism has left its mark on XXX
what you put is perfect, and I added another possibility
Note from asker:
| Thanks Debbie!!:-))) |
Peer comment(s):
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Muriel Vasconcellos
: Yes, I like "felt the impact of" best of all the options.
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thanks Muriel, enjoy your day! :-) Deborah
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Deborah and everyone else! I must say in this case --given that I specified the country had never become a British colony-- all other options would be valid, except "endure" and "bear the brunt". I also told the author it should be "British" and he agreed."
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8 mins
Kathryn Litherland
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Versatile technical translator/editor
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English
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dealt with
I like your phrasing "the impact of..." and suggest "deal with" as an alternative that picks up the negative overtones of the original: dealt with the impact of British colonialism.
And for reasons that I can't quite justify, "British colonialism" seems more natural than "English colonialism."
And for reasons that I can't quite justify, "British colonialism" seems more natural than "English colonialism."
Note from asker:
| As a matter of fact I had translated "British" (without even realizing!). But if the author says "English" I cannot change that... |
Peer comment(s):
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Aoife Kennedy
: Agree with Kathryn regarding "British" - more politically accurate. I think that "felt the impact of" is the best option here.
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Richard Boulter
: I think you must leave at least some hint of the negativity in the source: Kathryn's 'dealt with the impact' incorporates your excellent solution with a lightened negative undertow that may serve your context. I also agree with 'British'. Best of luck.
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9 mins
Mirtha Grotewold
Guatemala
Guatemala
Native in Spanish
Works in field
Guatemala
Translations of the highest quality
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
endured/suffered
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Liliana Galiano
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Gracias, Multitran saludos
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patinba
: This is what the text says, and I think it should be respected. "Impact" can be positive or negative, and the text is intentionally derogatory.
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Thank you, Patinba you are absolutely right!
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Eileen Banks
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Gracias, Eileen, saludos.
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Eneida Gonzalez
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Gracias Eneida, saludos
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Ivan Nieves
: exactly!
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Muchas gracias Covely!!!!
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Thanks a lot Franglish
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in your exact phrase =
experienced
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19 Sep 2008 ... africano derrotara a un enemigo europeo. Con Adua, Etiopía se convertía así en el único país africano en no padecer el colonialismo. ...
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Ethiopia did not experience colonialism and so the traditional system has ... “crown land,” which could only be accessed thorough the colonial government. ... women are 50-52% of the total population of most of the countries in Africa, ...
www.jendajournal.com/issue7/muchiri.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
by MN Muchiri - 2005 - All 2 versions
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allAfrica.com: Ethiopia: Uniquely African Millenium
Both the UN and the African Union have recognised the Ethiopian millennium ... the only country in the world that has preserved the ancient Ethiopian Orthodox ... to Ethiopia, the only African county that did not experience colonialism. ...
allafrica.com/stories/200707100734.html - Similar pages
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The History of Ethiopia - Google Books Result
by Saheed A. Adejumobi - 2007 - History - 219 pages
Marina Ottaway argues that Ethiopia did not experience colonialism like other African states, and as a result, the idea of a modern Ethiopian nation did not ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0313322732...
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in your exact phrase =
experienced
Note from asker:
| Thanks Liz, I did consider "experienced" too... that's why I need some brainstorming here ;-)) |
32 mins
perceived
Not being a colony themselves...
37 mins
Catherine Reay
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Spain
LLB (Law & Spanish), DipTransIoLET
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
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3
affected
Hello,
Another option?...
"XXX was affected by British colonialism"
Regards,
Katy
Another option?...
"XXX was affected by British colonialism"
Regards,
Katy
2 hrs
Edward Tully
Native in English
Because your words matter
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK)
Works in: Spanish to English
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92
borne the brunt of
another (colloquial) option!
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