Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
hold harmless
English answer:
consider AS THOUGH not liable
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John Kinory (X)
Apr 15, 2002 18:26
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English term
hold harmless
English
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XXX agrees to defend, indemnify and hold harmless the Institution ...
what is the difference between "hold harmless" and "indemnify"?
what is the difference between "hold harmless" and "indemnify"?
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hold harmless
sabilités (droit civil)
hold harmless clause s CORRECT
save harmless clause s CORRECT
harmless clause s
exculpatory clause s CORRECT
Hold harmless (clause)
DEF - A clause inserted in a contract whereby one party agrees to indemnify and protect the other party from any injuries or lawsuits arising out of the particular transaction.
Indemnify = sabilités (droit civil)
indemnify and hold harmless s CORRECT
indemnify and save harmless s CORRECT
indemnify and keep harmless s
save harmless and keep indemnified s
OBS - indemnify. ... To save harmless. s
OBS - Indemnify. To save harmless. s
OBS - indemnify: To save harmless against loss or damage incurred by another ... s
OBS - Indemnify: Compensate, hold harmless, ... s
hold harmless clause s CORRECT
save harmless clause s CORRECT
harmless clause s
exculpatory clause s CORRECT
Hold harmless (clause)
DEF - A clause inserted in a contract whereby one party agrees to indemnify and protect the other party from any injuries or lawsuits arising out of the particular transaction.
Indemnify = sabilités (droit civil)
indemnify and hold harmless s CORRECT
indemnify and save harmless s CORRECT
indemnify and keep harmless s
save harmless and keep indemnified s
OBS - indemnify. ... To save harmless. s
OBS - Indemnify. To save harmless. s
OBS - indemnify: To save harmless against loss or damage incurred by another ... s
OBS - Indemnify: Compensate, hold harmless, ... s
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protect vs. keep free
Hi Csaba,
I would see indemnify as to insure or protect against loss or liability, in a more protective and restorative manner.
'Hold harmless' would, in my opinion, refer more MAINTAIN, where possible, the company free from loss or liability. It is a very fine line, indeed.
I would see indemnify as to insure or protect against loss or liability, in a more protective and restorative manner.
'Hold harmless' would, in my opinion, refer more MAINTAIN, where possible, the company free from loss or liability. It is a very fine line, indeed.
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blameless
I think the proper word here should be "blameless"..in other words, free of blame or responsibility.
Indemnify means to compensate or make amends for any damage done.
Hope this helps.
terry
Indemnify means to compensate or make amends for any damage done.
Hope this helps.
terry
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John Kinory (X)
: 'hold harmless' is a standard phrase.
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to hold harmless is to consider as not liable
and a liable party "indemnifies" the damage done (i.e., gives compensation for).
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Note added at 2002-04-15 18:34:48 (GMT) Post-grading
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The sentence could this be rephrased as \"to defend and compensate the institution, and consider it free from responsibility/liability...\"
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Note added at 2002-04-15 18:34:48 (GMT) Post-grading
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The sentence could this be rephrased as \"to defend and compensate the institution, and consider it free from responsibility/liability...\"
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John Kinory (X)
: As so often the case, a wrong (and confused) answer was chosen.
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agree |
Tatiana Neroni (X)
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agree |
claudia bagnardi
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agree |
Fuad Yahya
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agree |
Julia Bogdan Rollo (X)
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disagree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: When B agrees to indemnify A, B is agreeing to pay sums which A may owe to a third party, C. B does not become liable in A's place.
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see explanation below
To hold harmless means to free from responsibility while to inmdemnify means to exempt from penalty (for actions) or to compensate for loss
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To indemnify = to hold harmless:
See - "Indemnity Clause" (actually the quoted phrase is from such a clause) - A contractual provision in which one party agrees to answer for any specified or unspecified liability or harm that the other party might incur. - Also termed "hold-harmless clause; save-harmless clause".
To indemnify - 1. to reimburse (another) for a loss suffered because of a 3d party's act or default. 2. To promise to reimburse (another) for such a loss. 3. To give (another) security against such a loss.
To hold harmless - to absolve (another party) from any responsibility for damare or other liability arising from the transaction, TO INDEMNIFY.
See - "Indemnity Clause" (actually the quoted phrase is from such a clause) - A contractual provision in which one party agrees to answer for any specified or unspecified liability or harm that the other party might incur. - Also termed "hold-harmless clause; save-harmless clause".
To indemnify - 1. to reimburse (another) for a loss suffered because of a 3d party's act or default. 2. To promise to reimburse (another) for such a loss. 3. To give (another) security against such a loss.
To hold harmless - to absolve (another party) from any responsibility for damare or other liability arising from the transaction, TO INDEMNIFY.
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indemnify
Sorry to come to this one just now. It’s been while since I dropped in on the EN>EN pages!
Liability and indemnity are not to be confused. They are quite different.
If A is held liable for an accident, he may have to compensate the injured party, B. If A has insurance, then that insurer C will indemnify A for the money he has had to pay over to B. The relationship between A and C is contractual. C cannot be held liable for A’s action or omission.
There is also something called vicarious liability where Y may be held liable for X’s acts or omissions where Y has authorised those acts or omissions. A classic example would be the relationship between an employer and an employee. Where the employee, X, causes damage to a third party, Z, and that damage occurred in the course of X doing his job, then it is likely that the employer, Y would be held vicariously liable. As and when Z decides to take legal action, he can generally choose to sue either Y or X (even both) although his best bet would usually be to pursue Y as he would have better cover.
Your question is about whether “hold harmless” and indemnify” are the same. Yes, going back to the first example, C agrees to hold A harmless (to protect A), by agreeing to indemnify him – hence the shipowners’ insurance mutuals known as “protection and indemnity clubs”.
I conclude by saying that it is not safe to say that holding someone harmless is tantamount to saying they are not liable. Indeed, to say so, would be erroneous. It means agreeing to protect a party where they ARE found liable. (It does not mean they are not liable, nor does it mean that the indemninfier becomes liable in their shoes, as it were).
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Note added at 2002-04-29 14:45:32 (GMT) Post-grading
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(It does not mean they (*) are not liable, nor does it mean that the indemninfier becomes liable in their shoes, as it were).
* the \"they\" here being the party which agrees to indemnify - thus neither liable instead of or along with the party responsible for having caused the damage.
Liability and indemnity are not to be confused. They are quite different.
If A is held liable for an accident, he may have to compensate the injured party, B. If A has insurance, then that insurer C will indemnify A for the money he has had to pay over to B. The relationship between A and C is contractual. C cannot be held liable for A’s action or omission.
There is also something called vicarious liability where Y may be held liable for X’s acts or omissions where Y has authorised those acts or omissions. A classic example would be the relationship between an employer and an employee. Where the employee, X, causes damage to a third party, Z, and that damage occurred in the course of X doing his job, then it is likely that the employer, Y would be held vicariously liable. As and when Z decides to take legal action, he can generally choose to sue either Y or X (even both) although his best bet would usually be to pursue Y as he would have better cover.
Your question is about whether “hold harmless” and indemnify” are the same. Yes, going back to the first example, C agrees to hold A harmless (to protect A), by agreeing to indemnify him – hence the shipowners’ insurance mutuals known as “protection and indemnity clubs”.
I conclude by saying that it is not safe to say that holding someone harmless is tantamount to saying they are not liable. Indeed, to say so, would be erroneous. It means agreeing to protect a party where they ARE found liable. (It does not mean they are not liable, nor does it mean that the indemninfier becomes liable in their shoes, as it were).
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Note added at 2002-04-29 14:45:32 (GMT) Post-grading
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(It does not mean they (*) are not liable, nor does it mean that the indemninfier becomes liable in their shoes, as it were).
* the \"they\" here being the party which agrees to indemnify - thus neither liable instead of or along with the party responsible for having caused the damage.
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