May 29, 2005 16:12
18 yrs ago
English term

whatever obstacles

English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature children's literature
Finally, seeing that they had gotten lost completely, the leader decided they just had to push their way through, whatever obstacles.

Dear native English speakers!
Please advise if such a construction sounds OK here or if I should expand it.

They are pushing their way through a very dense thicket.

Thank you!

Discussion

Nesrin May 29, 2005:
..because of the notes I added. Unless of course you went for Armorel's other suggestion "whatever obstacles they might encounter on the way"... Or is it because the question was only directed at "native English speakers"?
Nesrin May 29, 2005:
Oh dear, I hate to complain about not getting the points, cause I can really do without them. But you should have noticed that I provided the same answer 3 minutes earlier than Armorel (sorry Armorel, nothing against you), even if most agreers didn't...

Responses

+6
9 mins
Selected

whatever the obstacles

It doesn't work to just put "whatever obstacles" on its own - you could however say "whatever the obstacles", or you can add a verb, such as by saying "whatever obstacles they might encounter on the way"
Peer comment(s):

agree cmwilliams (X) : I also like 'whatever obstacles they might encounter......'
4 mins
agree Refugio : whatever obstacles they might encounter on the way ... also, I would change the first part of the sentence to say "seeing that they were now completely lost"
6 mins
agree Rachel Fell
22 mins
agree Nick Lingris
24 mins
agree RHELLER : whatever THE - they might encounter on the way sounds heavy to me
32 mins
agree Alfa Trans (X)
1 hr
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for your help Armorel! Thanks everybody!!!"
2 mins

whatever obstacles they might find

this seems right
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+1
2 mins

no matter what the obstancles are

This sounds much more natural to me.

Mike :)

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Note added at 3 mins (2005-05-29 16:15:46 GMT)
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The way it is stated right now sounds like advertising for a cell phone - like \"anytime minutes\" or something to that effect.
Peer comment(s):

agree Laurens Landkroon
3 mins
Thank you, Somerset - Mike :)
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+5
6 mins

whatever the obstacles.

I think this is the expression you had in mind.

Disclaimer: I am not a native English speaker.

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Note added at 10 mins (2005-05-29 16:22:45 GMT)
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Other options:

..regardless of the obstacles.
..obstacles notwithstanding.
Peer comment(s):

agree Refugio : whatever the obstacles
9 mins
agree Rachel Fell : whatever the obstcles (the other two don't work so well here)
26 mins
agree RHELLER : agree w/rachel
34 mins
agree Vicky Papaprodromou : Sorry, I am too late. I am not a native English speaker, either. :-)
8 hrs
Thank you Vicky! I'm really not bitter, but I'm only hoping that the asker's choice was due to an oversight on his part... Or maybe I just I shouldn't have meddled in a question that was clearly restricted to native speakers!
agree Balasubramaniam L.
10 hrs
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31 mins

in spite of obstacles / against all obstacles

or "whatever THE obstacles"

You could also say "notwithstanding the obstacles", but not at this level.

"In spite of" can be followed by "obstacles" without the article.
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