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unduly harsh test

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Those sentenced to at least 12 months, but less than four years (“medium offenders”), can avoid deportation if they can establish that its effect on a qualifying child or partner would be “unduly harsh” (“the unduly harsh test”)

Discussion

geopiet Aug 26, 2022:
the "Unduly Harsh" test considers whether: Briefly, the "Unduly Harsh" test considers whether:

Paragraph 399: A person has a genuine and subsisting relationship with:

1. A British child, or
2. A child who has lived in the UK for at least 7 years, or
3. A British partner, or
4. A settled partner

AND

1. It would be unduly harsh for that child or partner to leave the UK with the person to be deported.

AND

2. It would be unduly harsh for that child or partner to remain in the UK without the person to be deported.

- https://www.mondaq.com/uk/general-immigration/1215672/deport...
geopiet Aug 26, 2022:
the "Unduly Harsh" test As with all Supreme Court cases, there is a lot of history to each appeal but in these three cases the Supreme Court was looking at the appropriate tests which should be applied to those facing deportation.

These tests relate to exceptions contained within the UK's immigration laws for people facing deportation. If you can satisfy either test, that will outweigh the public interest in your deportation and you can remain in the UK. The tests are called the "Unduly Harsh" test and the "Very Compelling Circumstances" test. They are found at paragraphs 399 and 398 of the Immigration Rules, respectively. They are also mirrored in section 117C of Part 5A of the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002.

A person sentenced to less than 4 years in prison ("medium offenders") can seek to rely on both tests. A person sentenced to 4 years or more in prison ("serious offenders") can only rely on the "Very Compelling Circumstances" test.

mike23 Aug 26, 2022:
(5) Exception 2 applies where C (criminal) has a genuine and subsisting relationship with a qualifying partner, or a genuine and subsisting parental relationship with a qualifying child, and the effect of C’s deportation on the partner or child would be unduly harsh.

That is, where a person has been sentenced to at least 12 months but less than four years imprisonment (‘medium offenders’), deportation will breach the right to a family life if it would be ‘unduly harsh’ on a partner or child of the appellant.
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“a degree of harshness going beyond what would necessarily be involved for any […] child of a foreign criminal facing deportation.”

This test was often interpreted to mean that a judge should implicitly define an acceptable level of harshness that would necessarily be suffered by any child (or partner) if deportation takes place, and then go on to decide whether the child’s hypothetical suffering would in this case exceed that level.

https://immigrationbarrister.co.uk/deportation-and-the-undul...

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test/badanie spełnienia przesłanki "zbyt negatywnego wpływu deportacji na partnera lub dziecko""

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“(5)Exception 2 applies where C has a genuine and subsisting relationship with a qualifying partner, or a genuine and subsisting parental relationship with a qualifying child, and the effect of C’s deportation on the partner or child would be unduly harsh.”

This means the deportation rule will not apply to foreign criminals if the “unduly harsh” test is satisfied, i.e. the deportation will be unduly harsh on the partner or child of the foreign criminal

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https://www.ein.org.uk/blog/unduly-harsh-test-considered-fur...
Peer comment(s):

agree Beata Claridge : Moze nie tak do konca jestem fanem Twojej odpowiedzi, ale uwazam, ze jako jedyna rozumiesz znaczenie i sens terminu :) a tam u gory jakies agree :(
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agree Grzegorz Mysiński
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nadmiernie surowa próba

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agree legato
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Dziękuję :)
disagree Beata Claridge : Tak dla rownowagi, gdyz moim zdaniem to tlumaczenie zupelnie zmienia znaczenie: sam "test" nie jest "unduly harsh", on dotyczy "unduly harshness", dokadniej ma na celu udowodnic, ze deportacja bylaby "unduly harsh"
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disagree TranslateWithMe : z kontekstu to nie wynika
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niepomiernie trudne przeciwieństwo/próba/zrządzenie losu

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disagree TranslateWithMe : kontekst jest inny
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kryterium nadmiernej surowości

These tests relate to exceptions contained within the UK’s immigration laws for people facing deportation. If you can satisfy either test, that will outweigh the public interest in your deportation and you can remain in the UK. The tests are called the “Unduly Harsh” test and the “Very Compelling Circumstances” test.
Merely satisfying the undue harshness test will not be enough if you were sentenced to 4 or more years in prison.
https://latitudelaw.com/news/deportation-supreme-court-revis...

satisfying the test - slownikowo w tej kolokacji najczesciej oznacza spelnianie kryterium / warunku /przeslanki
w obecnym kontekscie tym kryterium jest wykazanie, ze depotracja bedzie "nadmiernie/niewspolmiernie surowa" w skutkach (nawet moze razaco surowa) dla bliskich deportowanego
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ocena (w kwestii) nadmiernej surowości kary

Ocena (w kwestii) nadmiernej surowości kary/sankcji

Oceny dokonuje sędzia. Jest to ocena subiektywna.
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(5) Exception 2 applies where C (criminal) has a genuine and subsisting relationship with a qualifying partner, or a genuine and subsisting parental relationship with a qualifying child, and the effect of C’s deportation on the partner or child would be unduly harsh.

That is, where a person has been sentenced to at least 12 months but less than four years imprisonment (‘medium offenders’), deportation will breach the right to a family life if it would be ‘unduly harsh’ on a partner or child of the appellant.
...

“a degree of harshness going beyond what would necessarily be involved for any […] child of a foreign criminal facing deportation.”

This test was often interpreted to mean that a judge should implicitly define an acceptable level of harshness that would necessarily be suffered by any child (or partner) if deportation takes place, and then go on to decide whether the child’s hypothetical suffering would in this case exceed that level.

https://immigrationbarrister.co.uk/deportation-and-the-undul...

Lord Justice Holroyde made the following assessment:

“I recognise of course the human realities of the situation, and I do not doubt that [PG’s partner] and the three children will suffer great distress if PG is deported. Nor do I doubt that their lives will in a number of ways be made more difficult than they are at present. But those, sadly, are the likely consequences of the deportation of any foreign criminal who has a genuine and subsisting relationship with a partner and/or children in this country.” [39]

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Opcja: ocena (w kwestii) niewspółmiernej surowości kary /
ocena (w kwestii) niewspółmierności kary
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