Myriam Seers Aug 24, 2022:

The "ouverture" of "dispositions pour cause de mort" is governed by Article 81(3) of the Swiss Civil Code. Here are the French and English versions. Interestingly, the whole issue is wrapped up into "probate" in this context!

L’autorité qui procède à l’ouverture de la disposition pour cause de mort avise le préposé au registre du commerce de la constitution de la fondation.

The probate authority shall inform the commercial registrar of the creation of the foundation by testamentary disposition.94

https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/24/233_245_233/fr
https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/24/233_245_233/en

Regarding Jennifer's point about not reading in, I agree. I was giving my understanding of what it probably means, not a proposed translation. I think "opened as of" or "as at" would be the translation I would go with, to account for the fact that we don't know for sure whether a will was read on that date.

Jennifer Levey Aug 24, 2022:

@Asker Just a reminder that dispositions pour cause de mort are usually not set out in a Will, and are not necessarily 'testamentary provisions'. They may be contained in a pacte successoral, for example, or in a tontine.

You need to avoid extrapolating beyond what the ST actually states, and it does not state that any Will was opened on said date.

This may be helpful (or not, as the case may be...):
http://succession.ch/directives-anticipees-et-disposition-po...

Myriam Seers Aug 24, 2022:

Yes, that's what it means, as I understand it. In other words, any other provisions of any other will (other than the one read "opened" on (date)) remain applicable. If another beneficiary shows up with a will that nobody else knew about, the provisions of that will may well carry the day. We don't know, hence the reservation.

Myriam Seers Aug 24, 2022:

Yes, that's what it means, as I understand it. In other words, any other provisions of any other will (other than the one read "opened" on (date)) remain applicable. If another beneficiary shows up with a will that nobody else knew about, the provisions of that will may well carry the day. We don't know, hence the reservation.

AllegroTrans (asker) Aug 24, 2022:

@ Myriam Are you effectivly suggesting "...any testamentary provisions....other than those contained in the will (as) opened on dd/mm/yyyy...?"

Myriam Seers Aug 24, 2022:

The way I read this paragraph:
Demeurent notamment réservées d'éventuelles clauses testamentaires ou dispositions pour cause de mort autres que celles ouvertes en date du dd/mm/yyyy et inconnues à ce jour par la Vice-Juge de Commune.

The provisions that are referred to as "ouvertes" are those of the will that was read on that date. Read "clauses or provisions" (other than those that were part of the will) "opened on (date)"

Myriam Seers Aug 24, 2022:

For clarity, the English does not have official force in Switzerland because English if not an official language of the Swiss Confederation, but this is the translation that the Swiss government includes on its legislative website alongside the (official) German, French, Italian and Romansh versions.

Myriam Seers Aug 24, 2022:

It is indeed "open" per the official translation Of the Swiss Civil Code, see my explanation in my entry below.

https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/24/233_245_233/en#book_3/...

II. Reading the will
Art. 557
1 The testator’s will must be opened and read out by the competent authority within one month of its submission.

2 All heirs known to the authority are summoned to attend the reading.

3 If the testator left more than one will, all are to be submitted to the authority and opened and read out by it.

Myriam Seers Aug 24, 2022:

No, it's a formal concept -- reading a will L'ouverture de testament is a formal concept, which is like reading a will, but I'm not sure if it is exactly equivalent to probate. Here is the explanation under the Swiss Civil Code. Will look up the exact equivalent.

I. Obligation de les communiquer
1 Le testament découvert lors du décès est remis sans délai à l’autorité compétente, même s’il paraît entaché de nullité.
2 Sont tenus, dès qu’ils ont connaissance du décès, de satisfaire à cette obligation, sous leur responsabilité personnelle: l’officier public qui a dressé acte ou reçu dépôt d’un testament et quiconque en a accepté la garde ou en a trouvé un parmi les effets du testateur.
3 Après la remise du testament, l’autorité envoie les héritiers légaux en possession provisoire des biens ou ordonne l’administration d’office; si possible, les intéressés seront entendus.

II. Ouverture
1 Le testament est ouvert par l’autorité compétente dans le mois qui suit la remise de l’acte.
2 Les héritiers connus de l’autorité sont appelés à l’ouverture.
3 Si le défunt a laissé plusieurs testaments, ils sont tous déposés entre les mains de l’autorité et celle-ci procède à leur ouverture.
https://www.loisuisse.ch/fra/sr/210/210_067.htm

AllegroTrans (asker) Aug 24, 2022:

@ Jennifer, your query It is 49 days after the date of death

Jennifer Levey Aug 24, 2022:

@Asker Is the date in the last line of your question before, or after, the date of death mentioned earlier?

Emmanuella Aug 24, 2022:

' inconnues par' dans ce cas. Est- ce que c'est français ?
' ouvertes ' synonyme de 'émises ' ?

Barbara Cochran, MFA Aug 24, 2022:

Along The Lines Of "Made Known" "Revealed" or '''disclosed" * (while I'm inclined towards the latter)?

philgoddard Aug 24, 2022:

Yes, I think ph-b may be right, so it effectively means "known", hence "inconnues" later on.

ph-b (X) Aug 24, 2022:

ouvrir un testament This is not, strictly speaking, about provisions that are "in effect/subsisting//extant". This is just another way of saying le testament ouvert en [à la] date du..., something like "the provisions of the will opened on...". They may be "in effect, etc." indeed, but that is not what the text says.

Barbara Cochran, MFA Aug 24, 2022:

Made Public?/That Were Published? https://m.interglot.com/fr/en/ouvrir