French term
vise
"le recepcioniste trouvé dans le bureaux de la société ... qui reçoit copie du présent exploit et vise"
The document is from a bailiff in Cameroon. What do the words "et vise" mean?
Mar 8, 2019 13:52: Yvonne Gallagher changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Mar 12, 2019 12:48: Yolanda Broad changed "Term asked" from "vise" to "visé"
Mar 12, 2019 12:48: Yolanda Broad changed "Term asked" from "visé" to "vise"
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Proposed translations
signs
viser(2)
"Examiner un document pour y apposer un visa, le valider."
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/viser
Here just possibly "stamps it" but more probably "initials it", I would guess (visa as paraphe).
https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais-anglais/viser...
In usages I've seen, it often just means 'signs', for the purpose of acknowledging / approving something — so here, presumably, receipt of something.
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I've just had confirmation from my journalist friend in Cameroon, that over there 'viser' definitely does involve actually signing, and he says it is frequently used in places like the 'commissariat'.
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writeaway
: imo initials is the right translation in English (don't know what it is in Serbian) Martin qui reçoit copie du présent exploit et vise en marge https://cdn.trombino.org/uploads/files/J-13-43.pdf
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In my experience, 'visa' is used in some circumstances where it opposes 'initials ('parapher'); either way, the important point is what it achieves; I doubt one would merely 'initial' if it were to acknowledge receipt, say.
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Yvonne Gallagher
: "initials" more likely//well, this is the company's receptionist so initials or signature will acknowledge receipt. It could well be company date stamped as well
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Thanks, Yvonne! In my experience, 'visa' is used in some circumstances where it opposes 'initials ('parapher'); either way, the important point is what it achieves; I doubt one would merely 'initial' if it were to acknowledge receipt, say.
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AllegroTrans
: or Maybe "receipts" (admittedly not a very nice verb but it would encompass signing, initialling or stamping)
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Thanks, C! Yes, that would be a good solution, as like 'viser' it gets back to the purpose rather than simply the means.
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Discussion
I think Tony's answer is correct, also because the document bears the receiving company's stamp for receipt (which is what might be meant by a "visa").
LOL but yes, I'd agree
If so, then it means "with the purpose of" or more simply "to".
"The document is from a bailiff in Cameroon"
"Examiner un document pour y apposer un visa, le valider."
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/viser
Here just possibly "stamps it" but more probably "initials it", I would guess (visa as paraphe).
https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais-anglais/viser...
Over to you!