Aug 18, 2018 06:06
5 yrs ago
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English term
United States
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French, French to English
Fall line
English to French
Science
Geography
Terminologie
Hello,
Looking for the translation of the terms "fall line" used in a Grade 4 geography manual (USA). The definition given in the book is "a place where the land suddenly changes from high to low. As a result, waterfalls are created wherever there are rivers. The falling water gives the fall line its name."
I am not satisfied about "zone de chute" or "ligne de chute" or "courbe de niveau". Any suggestion would be welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Looking for the translation of the terms "fall line" used in a Grade 4 geography manual (USA). The definition given in the book is "a place where the land suddenly changes from high to low. As a result, waterfalls are created wherever there are rivers. The falling water gives the fall line its name."
I am not satisfied about "zone de chute" or "ligne de chute" or "courbe de niveau". Any suggestion would be welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +2 | rupture de pente |
Platary (X)
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| 5 -1 | ligne des cataractes |
Marcombes (X)
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| 5 -2 | ligne d'escarpement |
Daryo
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| 5 -3 | ligne de chute |
Mohamed Hosni
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| 4 -3 | ligne de pente |
Lucien Rousseau
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Change log
Aug 18, 2018 06:50: Tony M changed "Field (write-in)" from "Bank Statement" to "School textbook"
Aug 18, 2018 07:26: Platary (X) changed "Field (write-in)" from "School textbook" to "Terminologie"
Proposed translations
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rupture de pente
Est le terme habituellement utilisé dans les études géographiques. Cascade pour les torrents et rivières, séracs pour les glaciers, etc.
Reference:
https://journals.openedition.org/physio-geo/3798
http://planet-terre.ens-lyon.fr/image-de-la-semaine/Img247-2008-09-29.xml
Peer comment(s):
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florence metzger
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Merci bien et bonne journée !
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B D Finch
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Merci bien !
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Daryo
: "line" is missing + although it's related it's not quite the same - it back-translates as "change in gradient" (somewhere in the middle of a slope) // the ST is about the whole slope, not irregularities within the slope.
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Lu : juste pour ne pas paraître indifférent.
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Mohamed Hosni
: Think about "chute".
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Je pense bien à la notion de "chut"...
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GILLES MEUNIER
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Merci et très bonne journée !
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writeaway
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Merci bien, bonne journée !
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you ! and sorry for the late response. This is definitively the right answer in the various contexts used in this geography textbook."
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Lucien Rousseau
Canada
Canada
Native in French
Works in field
Canada
Quality, price and speed above all.
Native in: French (Variants: Canadian, Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French, French to English, French
ligne de pente
C'est ce que je propose. C'est un terme que j'ai déjà utilisé dans un document technique pour un client. La plupart des textes que j'ai consulté font état de cette traduction. C'est surtout un terme utilisé dans le contexte sportif mais je l'ai déjà vu utilisé dans d'autres situations.
This is what I propose. It's a term that I already used in a technical document. Most of the documents that I've read were using "ligne de pente". It's used a lot when talking about sports but I have seen the expression used in other situations.
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«La ligne de pente détermine la différence de niveau qui existe entre deux points.»
This is what I propose. It's a term that I already used in a technical document. Most of the documents that I've read were using "ligne de pente". It's used a lot when talking about sports but I have seen the expression used in other situations.
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«La ligne de pente détermine la différence de niveau qui existe entre deux points.»
Example sentence:
[...] rhythmical, (e.g. count one second per turn), or draw a corridor in the snow with your poles to keep the skiers in the fall line.
[...] virage) ou délimitez un corridor sur la neige avec vos bâtons pour vous assurer que le skieur reste dans la ligne de pente.
Peer comment(s):
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B D Finch
: This is about geology, not sport. The expression "fall line" is used in skiing, but the meaning is different in that context and your answer would have been correct if this was about skiing.
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Mohamed Hosni
: "Pente" is general .The context is about geography.
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Daryo
: For some reason everyone interprets "fall line" as a "waterfall" in a river (of water or ice ...) while the definition given is clearly about a line along which there is a "fall" in the altitude of the ground.
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Mohamed Hosni
Morocco
Morocco
Morocco
Native in: Arabic
Works in: Arabic to French, English to Arabic, French to Arabic, and 3 more.
ligne de chute
Hope it helps.
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2018-08-19 18:46:29 GMT)
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We can also translate it into (ligne des rapides). Happy translation.
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Note added at 1 day 12 hrs (2018-08-19 18:46:29 GMT)
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We can also translate it into (ligne des rapides). Happy translation.
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: see asker's explanation: I am not satisfied about \"zone de chute\" or \"ligne de chute\" or \"courbe de niveau\". Any suggestion would be welcome. Where are refs to back 100% confidence??/oui!!
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Nonsens
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GILLES MEUNIER
: traduction littérale inadéquate
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Comment littérale et inadequate as well.
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Daryo
: step one: be sure what the ST means // the "fall" in "fall line" IS NOT a "waterfall" - a waterfall exists ONLY where a river crosses the "fall line", all the rest of the "fall line" is dry (and steep).
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ligne des cataractes
Wikipédia
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ligne d'escarpement
fall line = line on the ground / the map that goes along the "fall"/ the drop in altitude, separating the high ground and the low ground
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escarpement
one of the most famous "fall line" - where you can find the Niagara falls:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escarpement_du_Niagara
also:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Côte_d'Or
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Escarpement
more
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="ligne d'escarpement"
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Atlantic Seaboard Fall Line
The Atlantic Seaboard Fall Line, or Fall Zone, is a 900-mile (1,400 km) escarpment where the Piedmont and Atlantic Coastal Plain meet in the eastern United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_line#Atlantic_Seaboard_Fa...
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escarpement
one of the most famous "fall line" - where you can find the Niagara falls:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escarpement_du_Niagara
also:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Côte_d'Or
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Escarpement
more
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="ligne d'escarpement"
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Atlantic Seaboard Fall Line
The Atlantic Seaboard Fall Line, or Fall Zone, is a 900-mile (1,400 km) escarpment where the Piedmont and Atlantic Coastal Plain meet in the eastern United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_line#Atlantic_Seaboard_Fa...
Peer comment(s):
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B D Finch
: Some fall lines are escarpment edges, but look at the Piedmont diagram in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_line for one that isn't.//As your answer seems to be the closest so far, I'll change that to an agree to counter the unjustified "disagrees".
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Thanks!
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Mohamed Hosni
: Pas de sens.
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Définitivement!
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writeaway
: from your refs, it is clear that an escarpment is a term unto itself, in English as well. So not a fall line. ex: The Côte d'Or is a limestone escarpment in Burgundy, France that lends its name to the department which was formed around it.
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very interesting alternative interpretation ... BTW, has the concept of (partial) synonym been banished by the linguistic fashion police?
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GILLES MEUNIER
: vos liens correspondent à ligne de faille
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Reference comments
4 hrs
Reference:
Fall line
A fall line (or fall zone) is the geomorphologic break that demarcates the border between an upland region of relatively hard crystalline basement rock and a coastal plain of softer sedimentary rock. A fall line is typically prominent when crossed by a river, for there will often be rapids or waterfalls.
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Discussion
Encouraging an asker to choose one's own suggested translation, or peers to agree with one's own answers and/or disagree with answers provided by others, is prohibited."
Also, with regard to your "disagrees" with other answerers:
KudoZ Rule 3.5 "A peer comment must be based on linguistic evaluations of the answer.
These linguistic considerations must be provided in the case of a disagree or neutral comment. Personal comments are not allowed in peer comments. Backing up peer comments with references, in general, is encouraged."
"Hope it helps" is not an explanation, so perhaps you could rectify that by explaining in your answer how "ligne de chute" describes the geological feature known in English as a "fall line".