Nov 9, 2017 20:03
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English term

not have a point in

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Hi everyone!

The case I'm writing below is from an American novel about a group of black students at a black university back in the 1960s in the US.

There is a conversation of three people: two grown-ups and an undergraduate, who is a student leader. The student leader (Earl) takes his responsibilities seriously, and he faces expulsion because of his conflict with the college administration. The grown-ups (Zeke and Mrs. Gilliam) care about him. They try to talk him out of his leadership position. Zeke tells him to mind his own business, to pursue his own interests. Mrs. Gilliam agrees and says:

"‘I agree. How’re your grades? I bet you don’t have a point in none of ’um. When was the las’ time you wrote yo’ mother? I bet she don’t know nothin’ ’bout this foolishness." [Foolishness is Earl's insistence on defending students' rights against the administration.]

I'm not really sure how to understand the "point" above. What does it mean "not having a point in (none of) one's grades?"

Thanks.

Discussion

Mikhail Kropotov Nov 11, 2017:
What no one has pointed out... is that it's actually impossible to have a pointless GPA (Grade Point Average). 0.0 has a (decimal) point in it, too!
Thomas T. Frost Nov 11, 2017:
Still literally pointless @Daryo No points = point-less. I'm not sure if you missed that point/pun. Your comments could point in that direction. Of course, even without grades, something else than points could come out of such studies. Point taken.
Daryo Nov 11, 2017:
I beg to differ ... [Having not a single point ...] "That would make his studies pointless". Sorry, couldn't resist.

Not always - I know of few hopelessly failed students that turned into "successful" fog-sellers, sorry politicians ... Also, if the "point" of studying is to have good time for few years at Mommy's and Daddy's expenses, who cares about grades?

Sorry, couldn't resist either ....

On a more serious note, my point is that not everyone sees the same "point" in doing the same thing ...
Arabic & More Nov 10, 2017:
Agree with Mikhail and Björn.
Björn Vrooman Nov 9, 2017:
Agree with Mikhail After all, a GPA is a grade point average, i.e., amount of grade points divided by credit hours attempted.

This is a double negative, BTW, typical characteristic of African-American vernacular and it's speech. Read as: I bet you haven't earned a single grade point from any of your courses.
Thomas T. Frost Nov 9, 2017:
You have a point That would make his studies pointless. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Tony M Nov 9, 2017:
@ Mikhail I'm sure you're right about that !
Mikhail Kropotov Nov 9, 2017:
The American grading system that I'm familiar with uses a 4-point scale where 4 is Excellent (A) and 0 is Failing (F). Maybe she means he's failing all his classes.

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English term (edited): I bet you don’t have a point in none of ’um (of your grades)
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... tes notes sont zéro partout ...

it's the most literally about having [or not having any] "points" used to grade student's success.

I bet you don’t have a point in none of ’um (of your grades)
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you have neglected your studies to the point that your exam results are zero - no points (no credits in today's system)
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M
2 hrs
Thanks!
agree katsy : though the question is actually Eng. - Eng.//oh absolutely, so no problem really.... happens to us all I think from time to time!
9 hrs
oops, you're right - I missed that "detail"! But the explanation is still in English ...
agree Tina Vonhof (X) : Point or credit.
10 hrs
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