French term
révolu après
I'm wondering about
Enfants jusqu’à 13 ans ***révolus (après*** le 6 décembre de l’année N) pour un montant de 50 €
Firstly, if the child is aged 13 years and one day (or more) after 6 December, would they qualify for a gift voucher of EUR 50?
If 'yes', then I assume it is better to say:
Children under 14 years of age (on 6 December of year N)
But even here I have a little doubt cos "après le 06 December" could be interpreted as "on the 7 December therefore giving
Children under 14 years of age (on 7 (seven!!!) December of year N)
To resume, I'm hesitant on what both "révolu" and "après" really means in the mind of the author.
Any help appreciated please
Thanks in advance
| 4 +1 | children up to their 13th birthday (if falling up to the 6th of December of that/current year) |
Daryo
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| 4 | over 13 years (after the 6th of December.......) |
Francois Boye
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Proposed translations
children up to their 13th birthday (if falling up to the 6th of December of that/current year)
there are two parts of this defintion
"enfants jusqu’à 13 ans révolus" = children that have lived up to FULL 13 years = up to their 13th birthday
"après le 6 décembre de l’année N" = "après" relates to "révolus" (i.e. "13 années qui sont "révolues" après une certaine date" / 13 FULL years between the date of birth and the reference date) so the oldest accepted child would have "full 13 years of age" after the 6th of December of the year where this gift vouchers are given.
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it looks like these gift vouchers that are distributed yearly, so "de l’année N" would be "that year" i.e. the year in which vouchers are being distributed.
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over 13 years (after the 6th of December.......)
Reference comments
take your pick as you make your way through previous Kudoz
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/human_resources/...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/4949633
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Michele Fauble
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| agree |
Yvonne Gallagher
: don't know why yet more answers were needed
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Discussion
12-24 months = 2nd year completed
24-36 months = 3rd year completed
36-48 months = 4th year completed
60-72 months = 5th year completed
Ahem, no ... won't work - intervals are not counted that way!
to have "one FULL year of life / have completed one year" you need to have lived already AT LEAST one year at that point in time.
It's only at the end of its first year of life that a child can be "one year old", so the correct interpretation is:
00-12 months = 1st year of life, less than 1 year "completed", i.e. NONE yet.
12-24 months = 2nd year of life, ONE full year completed => child ONE year old (and few months)
24-36 months = 3rd year of life, 2 full years completed
36-48 months = 4th year of life, 3 full years completed
60-72 months = 5th year of life, 4 full years completed
etc
It's much less "bound to be misinterpreted" if you say "13th birthday" for "already lived (exactly) 13 full years"
Children under 13 years of age - instead of "Children under 14 years of age (on 6 December of year N)
Firstly because one winning entry for "l'âge de 5 ans révolus" says
up to their completed 5th year / until their 5th birthday
whilst I think I understand that
0-12 months = 1st year completed
12-24 months = 2nd year completed
24-36 months = 3rd year completed
36-48 months = 4th year completed
60-72 months = 5th year completed
I'm not so convinced that people in the street would equate "completed 5th year" with under 5.
Anyway, taking this answer as correct, I suppose that "Enfants jusqu’à 13 ans révolu" = until their 13 Birthday then and not "under 14" as I thought???