Jan 22, 2008 10:23
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anglais term

tenor horn

anglais vers français Art / Littérature Musique Instruments
Selon wikipedia, "Known in the U.S. as alto horn or peck horn, in Germany as althorn, and in the UK as tenor horn".
Je ne trouve pas à quoi cela correspond en français.
Merci !

Discussion

Patrick Fischer (X) Jan 22, 2008:
Selon cette référence, "saxhorn" et "bugle à pistons" sont bons tous les deux:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxhorn. mais c'est vraiment une question-piège !
Alain Chouraki Jan 22, 2008:
Did you check this excellent site, to clarify the instrument?
http://mellophones.bands.uiuc.edu/history.php
JulieM (asker) Jan 22, 2008:
j'ai trouvé pas mal d'occurrences de "cor ténor" (un bon millier), mais la majorité des sites ne me semblent pas forcément très fiables (bcp de sites marchands)

Proposed translations

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Saxhorn alto/alto mi bémol

I used to play the tenor horn in a brass band in the UK, when I was a child, and I still have the instrument. It is a brass instrument in E-flat (mi bémol), and is a very common instrument in brass bands although is not found in the brass section of the orchestra.

I confess I have never known the French translation, so am I not 100% sure, but I have attempted to research it a little this morning out of personal interest.

The Oxford Companion to Musical Instruments by Anthony Baines (p.333)
"Tenor horn (Amer.: alto horn; Fr.: saxhorn alto, alto; Ger.: Althorn;(...)). Valved brass instrument, in Britain pitched in E♭, a fifth below the cornet, with the bell pointing upwards. a standard component of the brass band in Britain and used also in France."

(p.296)
"Saxhorn. Family of valved brass instruments patented by Adolphe Sax in Paris, 1845. They are the parents of most of the deeper-valved instruments of the present brass band (other than German). Still in France the alto instrument, in Britain tenor horn, is known in full as "saxhorn-alto"."

The British Brass Band: A Musical and Social History By Trevor Herbert, (p.169-170)
"Adolphe Sax, the Belgian-born inventor and maker of wind instruments who worked in Paris from 1842, met with considerable opposition when he took out a patent in 1843 covering the instruments which came to be known as saxhorns (...) After a time, similar instruments by other makers were frequently called 'saxhorns'. The tenor horns (or simply 'horns') and baritones of the present-day brass bands are tenor and baritone saxhorns."

Also looked at a few image searches, e.g.:
Jupiter JAL456L - this Yamaha instrument is a tenor horn and seems to be sold as "Saxhorn alto (mi bémol)" in France.

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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Merci à tous pour ce remue-méninges. "Saxhorn alto" me semble la traduction la plus probable, mais cela reste encore trop incertain pour moi pour que je l'ajoute au glossaire."
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corne ténor

je ne vois pas d'autre traduction pour "horn"
quant à ténor, il indique si le son est aigu ou grave
dans le cas présent, c'est grave
enfin, une suggestion...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Alain Chouraki : ténor, registre aigu, au-dessus du baryton
34 minutes
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cor ténor



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Note added at 9 minutes (2008-01-22 10:33:21 GMT)
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Une ref restée dans l'étui ...

http://www.ciao.fr/Roy_Benson_Cor_Tenor_Sib__1117475
Peer comment(s):

agree Alain Chouraki : marching with this: http://wapedia.mobi/en/Alto_horn
29 minutes
Merci !
agree Cyril Georget
23 heures
Merci bien !
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Bugle ténor

THn, Tenorhorn, Tenor horn, Bugle ténor. Tom, Tom-tom, Tom-tom, Tom-tom. Tonband, Tonband, Magnetic tape, Bande magnétique ...
www.verlag-neue-musik.de/hylfe.php?sid= - 30k
Note from asker:
à ce que je vois, bugle ténor se dirait plutôt "flugelhorn" en anglais
Peer comment(s):

agree Patrick Fischer (X) : http://books.google.com/books?id=OtcFWuARK-IC&pg=PA62&lpg=PA...
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