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Nov 21, 2022 15:29
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German term

organmedizinische

German to English Medical Medical (general) Bericht tiefenpsychologisch fundierte bzw. analytische Psychotherapie
Dear Colleagues,

We need help with the following word/text:

Psychotherapeutische als auch organmedizinische Behandlungen, mit genauen Angaben wann, durch wen, warum, wozu und mit welchen Ergebnissen die Behandlungen erfolgten.

"Als Organmedizin bezeichnet man ein von der psychosomatischen Medizin abzugrenzendes Teilgebiet der Medizin, das sich mit der Diagnostik, Prävention und Therapie organisch bedingter Leiden beschäftigt."

We find 'organic medicine' as translation very misleading here.

Thanks very much in advance for any suggestion.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +4 somatic, somatic medicine
1 somatoform disorder medical treatments / somatic symptom disorder medical treatments

Discussion

Cilian O'Tuama Nov 24, 2022:
Yes, Phil likes telling people what to do. Should. But it can all be put right when the glossary entry is made.
Anne Schulz Nov 22, 2022:
The problem is that "physical medicine" has another meaning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_medicine_and_rehabili...
uyuni Nov 22, 2022:
w/Lirka 'Physical' vs 'mental' illness meets the context given.
Why not go ahead and post ist as an answer...?
Lirka Nov 21, 2022:
does not mean "holistic"; it relates to physical ailments rather than psychological ones
Stuart and Aida Nelson (asker) Nov 21, 2022:
Thank you Phil! I have just tried to find a way to make the change but cannot see how to do it.
philgoddard Nov 21, 2022:
Could it mean holistic?
Please remember to use uninflected adjectives when posting questions - this is a glossary entry, and should read "organmedizinisch". The same goes for nouns, which should normally be in the singular.

Proposed translations

+4
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German term (edited): organmedizinische, Organmedizin
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somatic, somatic medicine

Just a spontaneous idea (I don't know whether there is any established technical term for that).

Note from asker:
Thanks Anne, yes, that is the question if there is any established technical term :)
Yes, Lirka's solution for the description and incorporation of 'physical ailments' is good
Peer comment(s):
agree Lirka : yes, definitely the right idea, though I am no sure if somatic exists "on its own" in English ( "psychosomatic" clearly does). Perhaps the asker could use a description and somehow incorporate "physical ailments"...
19 mins
agree Andrew Bramhall : 'somatic' works fine on its own; somatic symptons as opposed to physical ones, for example.
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agree uyuni : Man muss nur aufpassen wegen "somatic symptom disorder", was ja wiederum "somatoforme Störung" bedeutet, letztere dann wieder eine psychosomatische Erkrankung...
14 hrs
agree Cillie Swart : seems plausible, thanks for sharing
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to Anne again and to all of the Agreers."
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somatoform disorder medical treatments / somatic symptom disorder medical treatments

Psychotherapeutic as well as somatoform disorder / somatic symptom disorder medical treatments, with precise details of when, by whom, why, what for and with what results the treatments were carried out.

"Somatoform disorder treatment / somatic symptom disorder treatment medicine is a branch of medicine that is to be distinguished from psychosomatic medicine and deals with the diagnosis, prevention and therapy of organically caused diseases."

Diagnosis and treatment of somatoform disorders - PMC - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › articles › PMC5798205
JK Smith · 2012 · Organic medical conditions must be ruled out, followed by psychiatric conditions, before a positive diagnosis of a somatoform disorder is confirmed and a strategy for further care agreed upon.

Somatic symptom disorder - Diagnosis and treatment
https://www.mayoclinic.org › drc-20377781
May 8, 2018 — Antidepressant medication can help reduce symptoms associated with depression and pain that often occur with somatic symptom disorder.

Efficacy of treatment for somatoform disorders - PubMed
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › ...
K Kroenke · 2007 · — Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) was effective in most studies (11 of 13), as were antidepressants in a small number (4 of 5) of studies.

CBT is the best established treatment for a variety of somatoform disorders, with some benefit also demonstrated for a consultation letter to the primary care physician. Preliminary but not yet conclusive evidence exists for antidepressants.

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Glad to have been of help.
Note from asker:
Thanks Andres for your suggestion.
Peer comment(s):
neutral uyuni : Please see my comment on Anne's answer and discussion box...
17 hrs
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